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Old 03-10-2013, 06:20 AM
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Damn pot hole

So I'm driving my new 328xi this morning and failed to avoid a good size pot hole. Bang!
No physical damage, no pull left or right. Will BMW check the alignment free of charge?
If not, how much? Should I be concerned?
I suppose if tires begin to wear inconsistently, that would be a sign. Hate to wait for that though.
Also, (just thinking out load) I have heard nothing but unpleasant reviews of these run flat tires. BMW suggest only rft's and not rotating. I sense these practices will be expensive down the road and might just second guess my decision to switch to BMW from Accord V6 ELV. That being said, driving my 328 is much more invigorating.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:28 AM
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So I'm driving my new 328xi this morning and failed to avoid a good size pot hole. Bang!
No physical damage, no pull left or right. Will BMW check the alignment free of charge?
If not, how much? Should I be concerned?
I suppose if tires begin to wear inconsistently, that would be a sign. Hate to wait for that though.
Also, (just thinking out load) I have heard nothing but unpleasant reviews of these run flat tires. BMW suggest only rft's and not rotating. I sense these practices will be expensive down the road and might just second guess my decision to switch to BMW from Accord V6 ELV. That being said, driving my 328 is much more invigorating.

Any Indy can check toe & camber. BMW won't do it for free; will charge premium $.

Hey, let us know the result!
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:07 AM
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I wouldn't be so worried, check it next time you change your oil for free
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Pot holes buckled one of my 19" rim.... $70 to fix...

The heat up the rim put it thru's a rolling machine to straight it back

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Old 03-10-2013, 04:20 PM
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These cars are not built for running into hit pot holes. They are too highly fine tuned. Stay out of pot holes or garage the car for the winter. The northeast is to poor to fix all the holes. Buying a car like this is really crazy. Trucks are better in the winter.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:31 PM
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pot hole

Well....I have garaged it but it was a nice day today and drove it 10 miles down the road. I might be overreacting because I drove over the same pot hole with the '05 accord and could hardly tell it was a hole. It does not pull either direction. If the tires start to show uneven wear, I'll get it checked. Or, I will bring it to my local tire shop before. 1,200 miles on it.
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These cars are not built for running into hit pot holes. They are too highly fine tuned. Stay out of pot holes or garage the car for the winter. The northeast is to poor to fix all the holes. Buying a car like this is really crazy. Trucks are better in the winter.

The idea that a X-Drive BMW should not be driven in Winter seems somewhat counter-intuitive.

I think "poorly sorted out suspension" is a more accurate description than "too highly fine tuned". There is a very well documented issue with the E9x suspension which is a combination of the RFT tires and poorly calibrated shocks. Both are easily fixed and BMW themselves made improvements in the later model years of the E9x and on the new F30. The basic design of the suspension is very good and once you remedy the issue with poor performance on bad surfaces you will wind up with a very good balance between comfort and performance. These are moderately priced passenger cars that are primarily used as basic transportation and are being driven on public roads as daily drivers as their owners go about their routines. They are not exotic high strung performance cars that are only meant for track use or occasional outings over perfect roads in perfect weather.


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Pot holes are not good for any car, truck, suv, tire, wheel ect.
Avoid em when you can.
Check tires, rims and suspension when you hit pot holes.
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What causes these cars to be so stiff in the suspension beside the run flats? The springs absorb the hit and the shocks stop it from bouncing up to fast as far as I know. When I put new shocks on my Mercedes it definitely handled much better when driving and hitting pot holes as well as in turns, but this car feels like you have no springs and just and axle and a wooden wheel! Or is there more under there that is stiffening this ride up?
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What causes these cars to be so stiff in the suspension beside the run flats? The springs absorb the hit and the shocks stop it from bouncing up to fast as far as I know. When I put new shocks on my Mercedes it definitely handled much better when driving and hitting pot holes as well as in turns, but this car feels like you have no springs and just and axle and a wooden wheel! Or is there more under there that is stiffening this ride up?
I was very displeased with the harsh ride and subsequent bouncing around and poor handling on my 2007 335i. I have since replaced the original Brigestone Potenza RFTs with regular go-flats (I am currently running Continental Extreme Contact DWS) and replaced the OEM shocks with Koni FSDs.

I am happy with the results and the car now handles better and ride quality is an order of magnitude better. The ride is firm, there is minimal body roll but the harshness, bouncing around and bottoming out over harsh surfaces is gone. Had the car come this way from the factory I would have had zero complaints but I don't think I should have had to re-engineer the suspension of a car that is purported to be "The Ultimate Driving Machine".

As I stated earlier the basic suspension design is very good and with a bit of tweaking the harshness can be minimized without compromising the good aspects of the suspension or negatively impacting performance.

I will add that the harshness was not an issue while I had the car in South Florida. In stock form it was fine on South Florida roads. Once I had the car shipped to NYC there was an issue as the car was for all practrical purposes undriveable in NYC roads.

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That is great to know! The Contis look much easier on the wallet as well. Thank you! I am definitely getting NON RF Tires and the Continentals have good creds here. I will monitor the shocks need after that. The roads here in So Cal are pretty smooth but the occasional "WHAM-BANG!!!" in a pot hole scares the bejeezus out of me and I feel like I'm gonna lose control and go up the freeway embankment!
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That is great to know! The Contis look much easier on the wallet as well. Thank you! I am definitely getting NON RF Tires and the Continentals have good creds here. I will monitor the shocks need after that. The roads here in So Cal are pretty smooth but the occasional "WHAM-BANG!!!" in a pot hole scares the bejeezus out of me and I feel like I'm gonna lose control and go up the freeway embankment!
The whole "Pothole Explosion" issue has been discussed here at length.

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That is great to know! The Contis look much easier on the wallet as well. Thank you! I am definitely getting NON RF Tires and the Continentals have good creds here. I will monitor the shocks need after that. The roads here in So Cal are pretty smooth but the occasional "WHAM-BANG!!!" in a pot hole scares the bejeezus out of me and I feel like I'm gonna lose control and go up the freeway embankment!
I'm in OC also and yeah, our roads are pretty good but if you drive up to/in LA often, watch out. LA sucks about repairing roads and I nailed a huge pothole there a year ago that required a trip to a wheel repair facility (they heat the rim up and round it back out). I didn't have any alignment issues after the impact but I did get a slight wobble at highway speed and the tire developed a slow leak. From here on out I think I'll take my 4Runner 4x4 up to LA...
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Big pothole at the end of my sub division street where it enters a county road. So far the county has sprayed a large day-glow circle around it which is slowly being eaten by the pothole.
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These cars are not built for running into hit pot holes. They are too highly fine tuned. Stay out of pot holes or garage the car for the winter. The northeast is to poor to fix all the holes. Buying a car like this is really crazy. Trucks are better in the winter.
This makes no sense, and in fact it's silly.

A BMW is a solid car all year around, the the main reason to own the X-drive is for winter driving.

It's a great car drive it. use it. Don't put rims on it that will make the tires self-destruct when you hit potholes. Stay alert (driving is your first priority) and to the extent possible, avoid potholes or slow down on the worst road surfaces.
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This makes no sense, and in fact it's silly.
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, the the main reason to own the X-drive is for winter driving..
Main reason for x-drive is to get better traction which can be in winter, or loose roads (gravel, mud, rain) Same thing with winter tires (just saw a video on BMWUSA site saying winter tires are not just for winter)

Also, x-drive has a faster 0-60 then non-x drive.
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It's quite silly to suggest garaging a BMW and going out and spending perhaps $10,000 or more on a truck that gets lower gas mileage, requires insurance, and doubles the parking space you need.

If you have that much money, then more power to you. The BMW is made for winter. It's a car, not a glass figurine. Drive it and enjoy it. When it's done, sell it and get something else.
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Yes this calls for a there are to many cars for to many years with the same problem - UNSAFE CONDITION
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Will BMW check the alignment free of charge?
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Independent Can do for $70


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