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Old 03-11-2013, 02:18 PM
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Camshaft Issues? Please help.

HI Everyone,

Just got my first BMW last week and feeling a little bummed.

Picked up a 2001 X5 4.4 with 226,000kms privately and took it to a mechanic for a look over and to fix any issues. It is not a BMW dealership but they do work on high end cars.

Since the check engine light was on he pulled the codes and came up with "Camshaft Inlet Bank A and B" I believe the codes were 340 349 but not certain.

The truck starts without any issues then there is a slight ticking noise coming from the engine which he pointed out and I didnt really notice. It goes away when speeding up but is there at slow speeds and idling.

The truck was sitting for a few weeks prior to me buying and an oil leak was noticed ( cracked oil pan ). I am not sure how long and how much oil leaked out. I dont think he used the premium gas or the best oil.

My problem is that the mechanic scared me off by saying that the engine would need to be torn apart to fix the camshaft or it could be as simple as replacing the sensors. He is leaning towards the camshaft needing to be be replaced and would not be worth it.

How common would it be to replace the entire camshaft both Bank A and Bank B?
Also, would the lack of maintenance be a cause for the ticking noise?

Any thoughts or prior experiences would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:06 PM
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I would just have him reset the error codes and see if they come back. A lot of Champagne taste, but beer budget owners only bring their cars in when they have trouble until it won't run and just fix whatever is keeping it from running.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:15 PM
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Thanks for the reply.

He reset the codes but it came back on after a few hours.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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That's a common issue. My '01 got the same codes and I just needed to replace the cam sensors (easy DIY job too). Replace all 4 oxygen sensors at the same time. Also, have him check a few other things: check for oil leaks around the engine/manifold/mass air, etc.; visually inspect all 8 CVJ boots to make sure none of them are cracked (replacing the constant velocity joints is expensive); check the auto-leveling (park it with one wheel on a curb and the other 3 on the ground).
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:49 PM
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Thanks for the response.
Did you also have the ticking sound? Would it cause the engine to run rougher?
There is also a cracked oil pan so its leaking a bit of oil.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:06 PM
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The auto leveling is inactive.
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:00 AM
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Do I change the cam sensors or the cam position sensors?
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:35 PM
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how many camshaft sensors are there to replace?
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:48 PM
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First off, you need to tell everyone what type of engine you have. 3.0I, 3.0D, 4.4, 4.6, 4.8?
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:00 PM
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Sorry, its a 2001 X5 4.4

Was told today it could also be the start of a timing issue as well that is causing the ticking issue. Apparantly this is common on this type of engine?

Anyone have similar issue?

When i start the truck there is a 1 second rattle then ticking. The ticking is not bad at all , can barely hear it but thats what the mechanic told me. 50/50 sensor or camshaft break.



Don't know what to do. Sell the truck or spend a few dollars to fix this issue.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:44 PM
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According to Realoem.com your car have two cam sensors:

03 Camshaft speed sensor 2 09/1998 12147539166 $116.05

Rattling could be from the Vanos units or a set of timing chain guides on their way out.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:45 PM
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how about the ticking? would the sensors clear the ticking up?
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:32 AM
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Kinda doubt if the sensor will clear up the ticking. Here's a link to another website regarding the rattling sound at start up. Kinda scary if the rattling sound is a precursor to this.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...5-x5-woes.html
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:50 AM
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OK,thanks for the reply .

anyone willing to tackle a timing guide chain issue in toronto. i can provide a bodyshop/ garage to work in.
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:18 PM
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Hi Guys,

Dug a little deeper and got another mechanic involved. Truck is pulling the P0011( Camshaft Position Timing Over-Advanced or System Performance (Bank 1) and P0021 ( Camshaft Position Timing Over-Advanced or System Performance (Bank 2)codes on my BMW X5 4.4. I am not hearing the rattling like a diesel and at times I do hear a little ticking but goes away the longer the truck stays on, the truck has been sitting for a couple of months. It also sounds like it revs lower the longer it stays on. Truck always starts up without issue and never stalls but when driving it seems to lose power when hitting the gas hard and the MPG gauge is all over the place.
I have researched the code on here, has anyone had a similar situation where everything turned out great without it being a timing guide issue or a valos issue? Have also read that nothing good ever comes from these codes and that it 50/50 the kiss of death for my truck. YIKES!

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