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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-12-2013, 09:50 AM
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Coil pack help Removal

Hi guys, changing my spark plugs now, passenger side. Got first 3 moving front to rear, how do I remove the last pack? Do I have to remove the bracket on the left? There's no room to remove the pack from the cylinder. Frustrating!!
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Have you removed the cabin air filters, surrounding plastic moldings, bars that are mounted from strut towers to the firewall?
If not, you need to remove all those parts to access the remaining coils and spark plugs.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:06 AM
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Have you removed the cabin air filters, surrounding plastic moldings, bars that are mounted from strut towers to the firewall?
If not, you need to remove all those parts to access the remaining coils and spark plugs.
Pcy, yup removed all that. My problem is when I'm trying to remove the last pack it's hitting the inside of strut wall to the left in engine compartment, no room to wiggle out of cylinder? Coil is too long...
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Any ideas guys? Can't figure it out...
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:33 PM
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Thank you pcy! I need to remove that bracket holding the AC lines and push it downward as described, thats what is preventing me from removing the coil pack from the cylinder. PITA!
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You have to remove the two bolts that hold the AC line connection in that area and move the whole thing out of the way. This requires bending the line slightly.
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You have to remove the two bolts that hold the AC line connection in that area and move the whole thing out of the way. This requires bending the line slightly.
Ok great, will take another stab at it later tonight... I actually removed the two bolts and bracket but was afraid to move or manipulate those metal lines to make room. IMO that is a pretty dumb place to put those lines and having to bend them out of the way just to replace a spark plug! Greatly appreciated gents! Will keep you posted. Cheers-
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Yep, not so smart. They certainly could have gotten them out of the way, although I'm just glad that you CAN get to the spark plugs on these things with as tight as the engine is wedged in there.

I wouldn't put it past BMW to call spark plugs a "lifetime" wear item and make it where you have to pull the engine to replace them, lol
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Yep, not so smart. They certainly could have gotten them out of the way, although I'm just glad that you CAN get to the spark plugs on these things with as tight as the engine is wedged in there.

I wouldn't put it past BMW to call spark plugs a "lifetime" wear item and make it where you have to pull the engine to replace them, lol
Agreed! Like my dad always tells me, "you need the right tools for the job"

So far only mishap is the coil pack plastic cover that secures two packs in place, I dropped one. I need to crawl under the car and remove the bottom splash guard to fish it out.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I was able to change all the plugs. The car is running great, idles and accelerates better than before. Cheers!
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good to hear that you've completed the spark plugs change and the car is running good.
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Quick update: driving the car all day, now it seems there's more throttle lag, as if there's a problem with the fuel- "starving" Is this normal after spark plug replacement? Do I have to get a reprogram done? Kinda want to put my old Bosch plugs in. Maybe I'm just being at the moment?!

No fault codes.

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Programming is not needed after spark plug change.
Are you sure that lag wasn't there prior to spark plug change?
See if you can do trans adaptations reset.

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Programming is not needed after spark plug change.
Ok good to know thanks. The car is most likely fine, I think I'm being paranoid at the moment. ;0)
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Programming is not needed after spark plug change.
Are you sure that lag wasn't there prior to spark plug change?
See if you can do trans adaptations reset.
Had my new battery registered finally, solved my issues. I also had a error mis-fire code, which was cleared as well. My car is running perfectly now!
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How many miles were on your car when you decided to change them? How long was the process?
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Hi Jim, my spark plugs had 33k on them. I was having rough idle when engine was cold, so I decided to inspect the coils and the plugs. All my coil packs are in working order and are not damaged, I'm glad I didn't have to buy new ones just yet. I replaced the plugs and used NGK this time around. The whole process should take around 2 1/2 hours. In my case, I didn't know how to remove the #8 coil pack due to the A/C lines and bracket being directly in front of that pack. So, my project came to a halt and did not finish until later that night. My car idles nicely and fires up in heart beat. When I change again in 35k or so, I'll replace the coil packs as well.
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Hi Jim, my spark plugs had 33k on them. I was having rough idle when engine was cold, so I decided to inspect the coils and the plugs. All my coil packs are in working order and are not damaged, I'm glad I didn't have to buy new ones just yet. I replaced the plugs and used NGK this time around. The whole process should take around 2 1/2 hours. In my case, I didn't know how to remove the #8 coil pack due to the A/C lines and bracket being directly in front of that pack. So, my project came to a halt and did not finish until later that night. My car idles nicely and fires up in heart beat. When I change again in 35k or so, I'll replace the coil packs as well.
Cool, thanks! Just wondering, though...aren't these plugs supposed to last like 100K? I'm considering changing mine out at about 80K (currently at 56K and runs fantastic), but you state that you plan on changing your current plugs again in 35K miles? I assume your duty cycle is extremely rough to cut the change interval by 2/3rds?
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Cool, thanks! Just wondering, though...aren't these plugs supposed to last like 100K? I'm considering changing mine out at about 80K (currently at 56K and runs fantastic), but you state that you plan on changing your current plugs again in 35K miles? I assume your duty cycle is extremely rough to cut the change interval by 2/3rds?
It all depends I guess, some techs say 80-100k on the 6 cylinder, on our 4.8's 4 years/60k which ever comes first according to bavauto.com

BMW tech stated to me at my milage it would be ok change plugs, he suggests 40k on our engines. your right, to change out the plugs and packs in another 35k might be too soon here is a picture of my original Bosch plug.

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I can say mine looked HORRIBLE when I changed them, although I have no idea how many miles were on them

It can be done in an hour (after you've done it once before)
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I can say mine looked HORRIBLE when I changed them, although I have no idea how many miles were on them

It can be done in an hour (after you've done it once before)
Yup agreed. Just don't drop stuff in the engine bay like I did. Had to crawl under the car and remove the splash guard to find what I dropped. LOL!
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Yup agreed. Just don't drop stuff in the engine bay like I did. Had to crawl under the car and remove the splash guard to find what I dropped. LOL!

To avoid having to do that in the future, just stuff some towels down in between the cylinder head and the side of the engine bay. Anything that drops will land on the towels in easy reach. Just don't use your wife's good towels.
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The rear coil on the passenger side is a real PITA, well worth it in the end.
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the rear coil on the passenger side is a real pita, well worth it in the end.
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