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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-16-2013, 01:06 PM
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Hi beams or driving lights?

Hi - I recently bought an '06 530 xit. I love it! But it's had issues (broken wires in harness to tailgate, water pump, to name a couple). The problem I have now is the left headlight's 'angel eyes' bulb has no power - gnd is OK, and problem isn't inside the housing. There is no B+ at gray/grn wire at connector at headlite housing. I think the light control module supplies this on pin 25 - where is the module? Also, the inside headlights only work as 'flash-to-pass' and don't light when I have hi beams on. The xenon lights use some kind of reflector that moves to act as hi beams. Are these inside lights supposed to be running lights and aren't working? Or are they supposed to be hi beams and aren't working?
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:37 PM
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Those are the hi beams- easy to change.

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Old 03-16-2013, 04:16 PM
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The inner lights are used for flash to pass and can be programmed as running lights. The high beams are the in the xenons.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:08 PM
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Thanx for the replies. I can't program them from the iDrive system. That's not an option in the lighting menu on my '06. It would be really cool if I could use them as high beams with the xenons. Is it possible to do this with software update?
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:39 PM
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Thanx for the replies. I can't program them from the iDrive system. That's not an option in the lighting menu on my '06. It would be really cool if I could use them as high beams with the xenons. Is it possible to do this with software update?
It is possible, but a software update won't do it. The car has to be coded. Change values in the ECU to how the light module reacts to switch inputs. My car is coded this way. It really lights up the road especially in those sparse areas of NC. The xenon steers and the halogens stay straight ahead so the road is lit brilliantly. As far as lighting, I have double blink hazard, that's cool and I deleted my eyebrows. So the Angel Eyes are on by themselves.
Also stop cold bulb checks for most bulbs.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:12 PM
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It is possible, but a software update won't do it. The car has to be coded. Change values in the ECU to how the light module reacts to switch inputs. My car is coded this way. It really lights up the road especially in those sparse areas of NC. The xenon steers and the halogens stay straight ahead so the road is lit brilliantly. As far as lighting, I have double blink hazard, that's cool and I deleted my eyebrows. So the Angel Eyes are on by themselves.
Also stop cold bulb checks for most bulbs.
Thanx - sounds very cool! Can it be done with a Snap-on scanner in 'expert' mode? Where do I find the coding info? I may have a bad light module because I don't have power to the left 'angel eyes' wire at the headlamp asmbly. If I have to buy a new module, is there an aftermarket version out there?
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:40 PM
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It is possible, but a software update won't do it. The car has to be coded. Change values in the ECU to how the light module reacts to switch inputs. My car is coded this way. It really lights up the road especially in those sparse areas of NC. The xenon steers and the halogens stay straight ahead so the road is lit brilliantly. As far as lighting, I have double blink hazard, that's cool and I deleted my eyebrows. So the Angel Eyes are on by themselves.
Also stop cold bulb checks for most bulbs.
Which module/options control that? Would like to do the same on mine

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Thanx - sounds very cool! Can it be done with a Snap-on scanner in 'expert' mode? Where do I find the coding info? I may have a bad light module because I don't have power to the left 'angel eyes' wire at the headlamp asmbly. If I have to buy a new module, is there an aftermarket version out there?
Your snap on scanner can't do it I wouldn't think.

You need NCS Expert + a cable like this one:

http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=16

Go to bmwcoding.com and get to reading!
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:22 PM
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Thanx - I'll check out that website
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:51 PM
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BTW, the LCM (light control module) sits under the dash to the left of the steering wheel. You will have to remove the trim on the side of the center console, remove the padding under the dash, and then unscrew the LCM and get a new one coded if you want to replace it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:01 PM
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Thanx - are the light switch and foglight button connected directly to the LCM - is the LCM right behind the panel to the left of the str. wheel?
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Thanx - are the light switch and foglight button connected directly to the LCM - is the LCM right behind the panel to the left of the str. wheel?
I am not sure if the switches are directly connected, they may be, there is a large plug that connects to the LCM. The LCM is located on the underside of the dash, roughly about a foot below the gauge cluster. It is behind the dash padding under the steering wheel, which is why you have to remove the side of the center console to get it out.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:11 PM
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got it - thanx again! I haven't had time to fix my own car - too busy fixing everyone else's!
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:07 AM
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Got a chance to work on car yestrdy - replaced LF outr tie rod.
Found LCM no problm, unplugd it, put B+ to pin 25 & left Angel Eyes lit - so now I need new LCM. I've been reading about coding on that great website - thanx for that tip! - and I kno now that I hav to get a newer LM2 (my car is erly prod. '06) and code it to get all thos cool featurs enabled.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:08 AM
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and I kno now that I hav to get a newer LM2 (my car is erly prod. '06) and code it to get all thos cool featurs enabled.
Good catch, cause you'd be kicking yourself in the future.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:52 AM
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It is possible, but a software update won't do it. The car has to be coded. Change values in the ECU to how the light module reacts to switch inputs. My car is coded this way. It really lights up the road especially in those sparse areas of NC. The xenon steers and the halogens stay straight ahead so the road is lit brilliantly. As far as lighting, I have double blink hazard, that's cool and I deleted my eyebrows. So the Angel Eyes are on by themselves.
Also stop cold bulb checks for most bulbs.
I sent you a PM on this. Can this be done on mine? (2004)

I'm looking for angel eyes on all the time, then halogens + xenons when using high beams
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:58 AM
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Hi - I recently bought an '06 530 xit. I love it! But it's had issues (broken wires in harness to tailgate, water pump, to name a couple). The problem I have now is the left headlight's 'angel eyes' bulb has no power - gnd is OK, and problem isn't inside the housing. There is no B+ at gray/grn wire at connector at headlite housing. I think the light control module supplies this on pin 25 - where is the module? Also, the inside headlights only work as 'flash-to-pass' and don't light when I have hi beams on. The xenon lights use some kind of reflector that moves to act as hi beams. Are these inside lights supposed to be running lights and aren't working? Or are they supposed to be hi beams and aren't working?
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:43 AM
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I sent you a PM on this. Can this be done on mine? (2004)

I'm looking for angel eyes on all the time, then halogens + xenons when using high beams
Yes, you can add the LM2 module. However, the AE as DRL is only available on LCI headlights, so it gets expensive quickly. Notice how pre-LCI cars with LM2 (09/2006 builds and up) still had inner bulbs as DRL. Also, if you convert to LCI headlights you have to convert to LCI tails as well or you will get error messages saying taillamp malfunction.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:53 AM
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Yes, you can add the LM2 module. However, the AE as DRL is only available on LCI headlights, so it gets expensive quickly. Notice how pre-LCI cars with LM2 (09/2006 builds and up) still had inner bulbs as DRL. Also, if you convert to LCI headlights you have to convert to LCI tails as well or you will get error messages saying taillamp malfunction.
Well scratch that idea then, lol
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:56 AM
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Well scratch that idea then, lol
No, not yet. I'm running LM1 11/05 build and I have it.
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If you want AE as DRL that's the expensive upgrade. Just adding halogens with xenons on a fwd push of the stalk is possible with any E60.

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Old 04-05-2013, 10:10 AM
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If you want AE as LCI that's the expensive upgrade. Just adding halogens with xenons on a fwd push of the stalk is possible with any E60.
Mainly looking to have both on at the same time.

How about angel eyes on all the time?
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Mainly looking to have both on at the same time.

How about angel eyes on all the time?
That requires upgrading to LCI lights and tails and coding.
Or else you could get the lights cut open and wired as such along with those really bright Orion V4's
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Mainly looking to have both on at the same time.

How about angel eyes on all the time?
You can have AE on all the time by selecting parking lights on the switch, but that will also turn on the taillights as well. I looked into every option on my old 530 to get AE as DRL, but it all came down to getting LM2 with LCI headlights, which I did when I got into an accident since I needed new headlights anyway. Never did get rid of the taillight errors though. Total for the headlights, LM2, installation, and programming was about $2200.
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uhm...what does LCI mean? are those LED lights?
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uhm...what does LCI mean? are those LED lights?
No, LCI stand for "Life Cycle Impulse" - what BMW calls their midlife model refresh. The LCI E60 is from 2008-10.
Here are the LCI differences:
http://5series.net/info/2008_LCI_Detailed_Changes.pdf
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