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Old 03-20-2013, 03:05 PM
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Hardwiring (escort) radar detector & warranty

Does installing a radar detector which is hardwired affect the warranty?

This escort http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ci-details.php is a beast

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Old 03-20-2013, 07:27 PM
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Does installing a radar detector which is hardwired affect the warranty?

This escort http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ci-details.php is a beast

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No.
(Good choice on the 9500, many of us have that unit, or have the "portable" 9500ix hardwired in. Do a Search to find out how.)
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:15 PM
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+1 on the escort passport 9500ix. I have the portable and hard wiring lends to a great set up. This is an ultra-effective detector.
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(Good choice on the 9500, many of us have that unit, or have the "portable" 9500ix hardwired in. Do a Search to find out how.)


Au contraire mon ami!

Warranty's toasted wherever he mods and whenever it has effect. Can't imagine what kind o'claim might be denied.
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Au contraire mon ami!

Warranty's toasted wherever he mods and whenever it has effect. Can't imagine what kind o'claim might be denied.
It would void the warranty on the fusebox with the spare terminal meant for an add-on device? Are you overdosed on your smoking medication again?
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+1 on the escort passport 9500ix. I have the portable and hard wiring lends to a great set up. This is an ultra-effective detector.
+2, have it hardwired and I think it's a great setup. Works awesome, probably helped me avoid a few fines in one way or another.
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It would void the warranty on the fusebox with the spare terminal meant for an add-on device? Are you overdosed on your smoking medication again?

And let's not forget interior panels and trim behind which he's likely to run illegal wire.

Whew! OP, you may as well forget your factory warranty. I recommend, even if you have to pay a very substantial premium, that you seek a radar detector that substitutes its own warranty for the deactivated BMW guarantee.

Thus, the protection of a prophylactic Promise Of Performance will be yours to savor on every drive.

I further recommend that you purchase only from vendors who replace BMW's cancelled coverage with their own.

There.
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OP, I believe that Cal may be using a little hyperbole, exxageration for an effect. We have discussed the "voiding of warranty" question many times, and this thread may have caused Cal to, well, spaz out.
You understand this is only speculation on my part? It's sometimes hard to tell with him.
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yeah had to read his post a few times and I still don't get it. Is he a normal dude?
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And let's not forget interior panels and trim behind which he's likely to run illegal wire.

Whew! OP, you may as well forget your factory warranty. I recommend, even if you have to pay a very substantial premium, that you seek a radar detector that substitutes its own warranty for the deactivated BMW guarantee.

Thus, the protection of a prophylactic Promise Of Performance will be yours to savor on every drive.

I further recommend that you purchase only from vendors who replace BMW's cancelled coverage with their own.

There.


For a second, I thought I had a 'medical hookup' if I ever left the state!
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Does installing a radar detector which is hardwired affect the warranty?

This escort http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ci-details.php is a beast

Miz
I have both the Escort and a V1 hardwired into the car. I have taken the car in to BMW Manhattan (which is owned by BMWUSA) for warranty claims and there has never been an issue. The only time it should be an issue is if there is a warranty claim for damage that was caused by the installation of the device.

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OP, I believe that Cal may be using a little hyperbole, exxageration for an effect. We have discussed the "voiding of warranty" question many times, and this thread may have caused Cal to, well, spaz out.
You understand this is only speculation on my part? It's sometimes hard to tell with him.

In this instance, I am deadly serious.

There can be no better product than one which replaces BMW's warranty with its own.
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yeah had to read his post a few times and I still don't get it. Is he a normal dude?
No not at all ..... he is exceptional ...... perhaps even extraterrestrial .......

Loved my 9500ix to the beach and back early this week .... even caught the guy standing on the Rumble Road bridge beaming down on the unsuspecting motorists
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No not at all ..... he is exceptional ...... perhaps even extraterrestrial .......

Loved my 9500ix to the beach and back early this week .... even caught the guy standing on the Rumble Road bridge beaming down on the unsuspecting motorists
Off topic: Do you go to the Varsity ATL meetups?
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Off topic: Do you go to the Varsity ATL meetups?
Oh man .... the last Varsity meetup was as a freshman living in Smith Dorm across the Downtown Connector ....... it was called "bird dogging" ....... involved local high school girls ..... some legal ...... enough of that
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op, check escort's website for approved escort installers. In my case i noticed that one of the bmw dealer's in my area (Chicago) is an approved escort installer (motorwerks in barrington, il). I called them and they confirmed they will hardwire. But since iam out of warranty anyway I got it hardwired by indy shop for bit cheaper.
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OP, I believe that Cal may be using a little hyperbole, exxageration for an effect. We have discussed the "voiding of warranty" question many times, and this thread may have caused Cal to, well, spaz out.
You understand this is only speculation on my part? It's sometimes hard to tell with him.

Today is Thursday, DSX....the week grows old....concerns accumulate.

Even so I say: Why so serious? Yo! Li'l wacky terbacky 'way up in the weather there, might spice things up a bit....

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Today is Thursday, DSX....the week grows old....concerns accumulate.

Even so I say: Why so serious? Yo! Li'l wacky terbacky 'way up in the weather there, might spice things up a bit....

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You know better than to take me too seriously.
I thought you overstated, just a tad, the case against the OP hardwiring a benign accessory like a radar detector. Heck, there's a spare terminal on his fuse panel that wasn't put there by accident. Plus, you know that the onus would be on BMW to prove (if push comes to shove) that an accessory like a GPS or radar detector voided the warranty on his defective injectors or whatever. Sure they might 'say' it did, but let's see if that's ever put into writing.
I think the whole 'will it void my warranty' thing is probably the biggest black hole on Bimmerfest. Threads become distorted, suck in forum energy, and emit no detectable knowledge.
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It would void the warranty on the fusebox with the spare terminal meant for an add-on device? Are you overdosed on your smoking medication again?
Considering i have seen the 9500ix at various dealerships (e.g., Ottos of West Chester). Not particularly worried either.

As for hardwiring - I tried getting DSX to install mine on C2C. He refused, so I had to pay someone to do it
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I have a Z4 2011 and the cigarette lighter is in the center console b/t the driver and passenger. How do work around the distant to the console if you DON'T want to hardwire the detector? I was given a Escort 8500 x50. I am not the sort of the person to tinker with the car and I don't war to void my warranty in any way. I did get a ticket and wanted to try the detector to see if I could get more warning. I usually only speed on long road trips but in the city, too much traffic in South Florida.
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I have a Z4 2011 and the cigarette lighter is in the center console b/t the driver and passenger. How do work around the distant to the console if you DON'T want to hardwire the detector? I was given a Escort 8500 x50. I am not the sort of the person to tinker with the car and I don't war to void my warranty in any way. I did get a ticket and wanted to try the detector to see if I could get more warning. I usually only speed on long road trips but in the city, too much traffic in South Florida.

I am very glad you have revived this thread, rrodriguezdl, very glad indeed. You are concerned about warranty, and should be aware that any mod you make disqualifies you for BMW warranty coverage as a result of your mod. Thus, again, the product that substitutes its own warranty for BMW's cancelled coverage is the best possible product for your need.

I recommend you email Steve Dinan, asking that he spec a radar detector in his line. I've no doubt he will recommend the Dinan Long Range Directional Radar Detector - NSA BLACK EDITION - click on pic.


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Easy come, easy go, rrodriguezdl. That 'free' radar detector is worth exactly what you paid for it in the above regard. Buy Dinan now, and you'll be covered!


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I had a Valentine 1 hard wired into my E93 by an Indy shop.I have my car serviced by BMW Manhattan which is owned by BMW North America. They have never given me a hard time for my hardwired V1, my Koni FSD shocks or my non RFT tires.

When I took the car in for the battery cable recall when I got it back the V1 was disconnected. I called and complained and they reconnected it at no charge.

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I just hard wired my v1 well kind of. I ran the cable it came with tucked In the headliner and pillar around the window. And on the passenger side plugged the cable into the cigaret socket under the glove box. I never knew that these cars have another outlet under the glovebox dash one the passenger side. Anyways worked perfect. No wires and can remove if needed. Took me like 5 min to do this
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I just hard wired my v1 well kind of. I ran the cable it came with tucked In the headliner and pillar around the window. And on the passenger side plugged the cable into the cigaret socket under the glove box. I never knew that these cars have another outlet under the glovebox dash one the passenger side. Anyways worked perfect. No wires and can remove if needed. Took me like 5 min to do this
I do that in rental cars but in my own cars I hardwire.

In the case of the V1 I mounted an RJ11 coupler to the top of the windshield with double sided tape and them run the V1 power cable to it and then make a short connector cable to run between the V1 and the V1. I can remove the connector cable when I remove the V1 and there is no cable left dangling. Also in the event the RJ11 on the short cable cable gets damaged (quite likely as Rj11s are rather fragile) the connector cable is easily replaced. Since there is no reason to disconnect the V1 power cable from the RJ11 coupler you don't have to worry about damage to the connector.

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