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X1 E84 (2011 - current)
The new to the US BMW X1 will arrive at BMW dealers in the fall of 2012 as a 2013 model year. Get your X1 28i with either sDrive (RWD) or xDrive (AWD) or get the US exclusive I6 N55 powered X1 35i dDrive.

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Old 03-24-2013, 01:29 AM
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X1 vs e90 320D Dilemma

Hi all

I had just about selected my next car.. a pristine Silver 320D e90 sedan (135kw) version.. fully loaded with everything.

Then I started reading about X1's and got curious..
I liked the idea of a compact SUV to carry IKEA stuff and baby pram around...

So I started to do a comparison..
Interior wise I understand the e90 is slightly larger but the boot of an X1 is slightly higher yeh slightly shorter...
Does this mean more versatility or is that just an illusion ?

Something about the X1 feels more airy and more at home.. perhaps its the panoramic sunroof and more supportive seats?


The driving.. felt almost like there was nothing in it (xDrive 20D vs 320D RWD)
In fact it felt even more fun pushing the x1 into corners than the 3er..
I couldn't believe how something sitting higher could defy laws of physics - It had handling and grip like a sports car, and just kept wanting to be pushed harder and harder..

Oh the demo I drove has paddle shifters which could be half the reason I was enjoying myself so much..all the used examples I'm looking at don't have paddle shifters


Now the possible deal breaker - No HIDs / Angel eyes in the X1.
In fact there are less than 10% of X1's on the road in Australia optioned with the HIDs.
I don't know how I could live with such a stylish X1 with old reflector lights.


I could keep waiting for an X1 that has HIDs ... but it might not also have the panoramic sunroof or the sat nav/idrive which the one I'm staring down does.

My questions to you all:

* Is the shorter/smaller but taller boot in an X1 really more versatile and practical than a e90 sedan for a new family? (baby + 2 adults)

* Is there a way to retrofit HIDs into an X1 seeing as I simply can't live without them?

* I have definitely read about Paddleshifter retrofits into X1.. is it worth it ? What can go wrong ?

* Anyone have an X1/e90 who has a similar Dilemma?
What made you chose the e90 / x1?

(oh e90 320D Touring wagon is out of the question in Aust... going to be more expensive than an X1)


Thanks



EDIT: These are the 2 I'm comparing

A) 320D - 2010 MY10 - Silver, 17"s , Sat Nav, electric seats, HIDs, 55,000kms, 135kw version, sunroof, black leather (0-100kms / 7.6 sec)

B) X1 x20D - 2010 MY10 - Black, roof rails, panoramic sunroof, sat nav, 50,000kms, 130kw, black leather, sat nav (1-100kms/ 8.6 secs)
[MISSING HIDS and Electric seats and Paddle shifters)

Both in excellent condition, both same price.

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Old 03-24-2013, 11:02 AM
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You cannot custom order X1 to your spec in Sydney?
X1 is definitely more usable w/a baby, easier to put in strollers, etc.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:42 AM
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:43 AM
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I think the OP is buying used.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:06 PM
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:44 PM
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Unfortunately buying used so customizations limited to what's in the market.

And budget only stretches to pre LCI
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Hi all

EDIT: These are the 2 I'm comparing

A) 320D - 2010 MY10 - Silver, 17"s , Sat Nav, electric seats, HIDs, 55,000kms, 135kw version, sunroof, black leather (0-100kms / 7.6 sec)

B) X1 x20D - 2010 MY10 - Black, roof rails, panoramic sunroof, sat nav, 50,000kms, 130kw, black leather, sat nav (1-100kms/ 8.6 secs)
[MISSING HIDS and Electric seats and Paddle shifters)

Both in excellent condition, both same price.
Both cars the built on the same platform... X1 is AWD (which is Xi E90 overseas)

320D E90 is old now so resale will drop very quickly soon

X1 (pre LCI) is still considered a current model

Putting Bi-Xenon into X1 will be difficult... (can buy OEM X1 lights set on ebay for $1200 then will be $400 of labour to install)

Personally I go for the X1... preferably XDrive23D... it has lots of torque or XDrive25i

Good luck
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:15 AM
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Thanks Silverx3

I think X1 is going to be my choice too in the end

Now about installing oem hId housing .. I heard I need some sort of reprogramming once installed?

Can someone tell me what's involved ?
I'm sure BMW won't do it for me since it was not optioned at factory
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:34 AM
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Thanks Silverx3

I think X1 is going to be my choice too in the end

Now about installing oem hId housing .. I heard I need some sort of reprogramming once installed?

Can someone tell me what's involved ?
I'm sure BMW won't do it for me since it was not optioned at factory
i heard that adding oem HID cost over $2k. It is a very time consuming process and better to find a car with the option
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Thanks Silverx3

I think X1 is going to be my choice too in the end

Now about installing oem hId housing .. I heard I need some sort of reprogramming once installed?

Can someone tell me what's involved ?
I'm sure BMW won't do it for me since it was not optioned at factory
A few set of oem on eBay for $1200... I asked my local dealer last week they quoted me 4 hours for installation incl. reprogramming
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I also hear that beside the oem light modules you need a new wiring harness.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:37 PM
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A few set of oem on eBay for $1200... I asked my local dealer last week they quoted me 4 hours for installation incl. reprogramming
I would pay that in a heart beat..
But I would think dealers here would refuse to do the work because it would not have the washer system as it wasn't a factory installed option..

Still maybe some other mechanics might help me out
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I did check with BM tech in Melbourne

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they quoted me around $400 for installation... and to be honest, you don't need washer system.... it's gimmick

and OEM lights incl. bulbs and ballasts

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2X-NEW-OR...item588ce8d247

all up less than $2000
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I did check with BM tech in Melbourne

bmtech.com.au

they quoted me around $400 for installation... and to be honest, you don't need washer system.... it's gimmick

and OEM lights incl. bulbs and ballasts

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2X-NEW-OR...item588ce8d247

all up less than $2000
Nice!
Are you going to get it done?
Are they going to supply harness?
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Need to buy a car first

selling my e90 for an x1
Good luck

BTW I've started a new thread here all about lighting
I think the OEM way is going to be way more bigger job than expected.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...70#post7470670
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