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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-22-2013, 04:56 PM
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Another one bites the dust... (coolant transfer pipe on N62)

Well, came out to the car earlier and found this:







Put more coolant in, and it's coming right back out the weep hole.. so I assume the infamous coolant transfer pipe is the culprit. I had seen a small dried up coolant trail from the hole a few weeks back, but figured maybe it was just leaking a little and no big deal. Apparently it went from little bit to whole lot real quick.

So, this will be my thread of fixing it. Any tips would certainly be appreciated.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:00 PM
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Please get this pipe below with the repair. I'm sure you've heard of it. The cost will be hundreds less.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:01 PM
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Please get this pipe below with the repair. I'm sure you've heard of it. The cost will be hundreds less.
http://www.allgermanauto.com/product/index.html
Indeed, I already had some DIY links bookmarked for this day, lol.

I am torn between that one or the URO one. URO is cheaper and I haven't seen any complaints (so far). I don't mind spending more if I need to.. just don't really want to if I don't need to

http://www.amazon.com/URO-1114143997...=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:08 PM
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No problem about which one, just as long as you don't have to take the front of the engine off. I've heard many, many, many stories about that $3000 repair.
The latest one was a guy with a 745i at a tire shop I went to a few months ago. He liked my car and wanted it because he's had it with his 745i. Told me about that repair, and i'm like "nooo dude, you gotta get that pipe." He didn't know about it and was kicking himself after I explained it. He surely kept my number after and gave me a huge discount on the tire repair just for the hindsight alone lol.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:50 PM
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Are you sure is the transfer pipe? Reason I ask is because my coolant expansion tank cracked on me and only $100 later I was good to go.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:16 PM
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Man sorry to hear this... Hope fix isn't too $$$.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:17 PM
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edit / update 4/10/2013: Please see later post on actual parts I ended up needing. This was just a first draft.


Here's what I have so far.. changing a lot of small parts while it's apart.

I think I can do the whole thing for less than $500

Qty Price Total
1 Water feed pipe, O-Ring http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11517507717/ $3.21 $3.21
1 small coolant pipe http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11511439976/ $15.65 $15.65
1 water pump gasket http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11517508535/ES24416/ $9.60 $9.60
2 intake manifold gasket http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11617521181/ $22.77 $45.54
1 valley pan http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11147507278/ES19430/ $67.35 $67.35
8 injector clip http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/13537528539/ $0.90 $7.20
8 injector o-rings http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/13647509752/ES34578/ $4.92 $39.36
2 valvetronic o-rings http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/7119903596/ $2.32 $4.64
1 hex bolt (water feed pipe) http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/07119905400/ES14707/ $0.99 $0.99
4 Torx-bolt, fuel rails http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/07129904819/ES16077/ $0.99 $3.96


Total $197.50

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:19 PM
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Are you sure is the transfer pipe? Reason I ask is because my coolant expansion tank cracked on me and only $100 later I was good to go.
It is dumping coolant out of the weep hole, so pretty certain that is what it is

(I changed most of the cooling system a few months back also and all the lines are dry)

You can kind of see it here. To the left of the water pump opening

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:23 PM
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Man sorry to hear this... Hope fix isn't too $$$.
Thanks! Hopefully my apartment complex doesn't get pissed when I rip this thing apart in the parking lot, haha

Have to get a rental car for next week though, so that kind of sucks
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:45 PM
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edit / update 4/10/2013: Please see later post on actual parts I ended up needing. This was just a draft.


Update:

Little over $400 (before shipping..)

Qty Total
1 Water feed pipe, O-Ring http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11517507717/ $3.21
1 small coolant pipe http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11511439976/ $15.65
1 water pump gasket http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11517508535/ES24416/ $9.60
2 intake manifold gasket http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11617521181/ $45.54
1 valley pan http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11147507278/ES19430/ $67.35
8 injector clip http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/13537528539/ $7.20
8 injector o-rings http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/13647509752/ES34578/ $39.36
2 valvetronic o-rings http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/7119903596/ $4.64
1 hex bolt (water feed pipe) http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/07119905400/ES14707/ $0.99
4 Torx-bolt, fuel rails http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/07129904819/ES16077/ $3.96

1 Coolant pipe kit http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/11141439975R/ES2568197/ $229.00



Total $426.50

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:55 PM
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and the miles on car is ...
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:55 PM
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and the miles on car is ...
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:56 PM
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I feel for you, had the coolant pipe kit done on mine when I bought it last summer
Fortunately for me it was at the dealers expense, It started leaking/ pouring out the weap hole two days after I got it
Also got th

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:57 PM
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:59 PM
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For the miles on mine, I can't complain. This was one of the last of the most common complaints
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:02 PM
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edit / update 4/10/2013: Please see later post on actual parts I ended up needing. After I got into it I ordered more parts

Quantity Each Total
ES#24414 O-Ring ES#24414
See MOQKT
11517507717 1 $3.21 $3.21
ES#24361 PIPE ES#24361

11511439976 1 $15.65 $15.65
ES#24416 GASKET ES#24416

11517508535 1 $9.60 $9.60
ES#25751 Intake Manifold Gasket - Priced Each ES#25751
Fits both left and right
11617521181 2 $22.77 $45.54
ES#19430 Valley Pan Cover With Seal ES#19430
Located in between the cylinder heads beneath the intake manifold.
11147507278 1 $67.35 $67.35
ES#33675 Fuel Injector Holder - Priced Each ES#33675
Clips into the fuel injector
13537528539 8 $0.99 $7.92
ES#34578 O-RING ES#34578

13647509752 8 $4.92 $39.36
ES#2597506 O-Ring ES#2597506

07119903596 2 $2.32 $4.64
ES#14707 HEX BOLT ES#14707
SEE MOQKT
07119905400 1 $0.99 $0.99
ES#16077 TORX BOLT W/WASHER ES#16077

07129904819 4 $0.99 $3.96
ES#2568197 Collapsible Water Pipe Kit ES#2568197
Effectively and easily addresses a common point of failure in the N62 4.4L and 4.8L V8!
11141439975R 1 $229.95 $229.95
Sub Total: $428.17
Shipping - (UPS - Next Day Air Saver): $36.06

Total: $464.23

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Old 03-22-2013, 07:07 PM
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Just be aware of your complexes policy on vehicle repairs. You really don't want to add that to the headache mix. It's still a big job as easy as it may be, and neighbors can report you. I would just inform the front office if its against their policy, and let them know it would take no longer than a weekend. The hood can be closed/vehicle secured so the car won't look a wreck sitting there.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:13 PM
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Will do.

Yeah, I should be able to do it in a weekend easy. If I have the parts by end of the week hopefully I can use the extra day off on Friday to knock it out!

I thought about ordering the vacuum pipe thing that goes between the valve covers & intake but it would have added $100. Hope I don't break the old one getting it off!
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:50 PM
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Thats some good mileage you are getting out of her. I'd say you had a good run prior to this!
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Thanks! Hopefully my apartment complex doesn't get pissed when I rip this thing apart in the parking lot, haha

Have to get a rental car for next week though, so that kind of sucks
LOL. Just make sure you have a folding chair, radio and cooler full of beer when you fix your ride, management won't say anything.
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Thats some good mileage you are getting out of her. I'd say you had a good run prior to this!
Yeah, can't complain. It was due for this to happen

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LOL. Just make sure you have a folding chair, radio and cooler full of beer when you fix your ride, management won't say anything.
lol, yes sir!
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Sorry to hear this, we were just chiming in on this subject a few weeks ago! Good luck with your repair.
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:38 PM
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Pictures! Only took about an hour to get the intake off. Wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I have to do some major cleaning before putting it back together though--a bit of dirt/grit got down into the intake runners and is sitting on the valves. May be fine but I really don't want to risk it.

Looks like the coolant pipe running from the expansion tank to under the intake had some leaks as well--I found cruddy green stuff all over the place. I ordered a new one of those and ordered new crankcase ventilation hoses. This put another $170 on the tab though.. so I'm over budget, but oh well.
































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Hey great job! Stuff some paper towels in the intake ports to avoid contaminates.
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Hey great job! Stuff some paper towels in the intake ports to avoid contaminates.
Thanks! I covered the ports with painters tape for now (didn't have any paper towels and didn't have enough rags, lol)
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