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Old 03-24-2013, 10:07 AM
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Difference between sport and msport steering wheel

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I'm doing some research on upgrading my standard steering wheel. I would like something similar to what the newer f01's have with the msport package (obviously without the paddles). It needs to be heated as well. Now I've seen all sorts of contradicting info on the difference between the too, but really all I want is a thicker wheel that higher quality and softer leather (feels almost like lamb skin leather). Which parts should I be searching for, sport or Msport steering wheel?
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I'm doing some research on upgrading my standard steering wheel. I would like something similar to what the newer f01's have with the msport package (obviously without the paddles). It needs to be heated as well. Now I've seen all sorts of contradicting info on the difference between the too, but really all I want is a thicker wheel that higher quality and softer leather (feels almost like lamb skin leather). Which parts should I be searching for, sport or Msport steering wheel?
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:18 PM
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Funny you should ask this. I am researching the same thing at this moment but to get paddles. Sadly M-Sport does not have heating as an option. That is my only reservation currently.
That's odd... my M Sport has heasted steering wheel. There's a small buttton on the left side of the steering column to turn it on. No button on the wheel itself. Sadly, it didn't come with paddles in '12.
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That's odd... my M Sport has heasted steering wheel. There's a small buttton on the left side of the steering column to turn it on. No button on the wheel itself. Sadly, it didn't come with paddles in '12.
Hmm...possibly my contact is mistaken. Will have to look into this more. Thanks for the info.

Yup, you can configure an F10 online with M-sport, heating and vibration with paddles. Gonna see if I can order that and retrofit.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:49 PM
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I'm doing some research on upgrading my standard steering wheel. I would like something similar to what the newer f01's have with the msport package (obviously without the paddles). It needs to be heated as well. Now I've seen all sorts of contradicting info on the difference between the too, but really all I want is a thicker wheel that higher quality and softer leather (feels almost like lamb skin leather). Which parts should I be searching for, sport or Msport steering wheel?
Do you need the vibration function with the drivers assistance option?
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Do you need the vibration function with the drivers assistance option?
Nope I sure do not.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:05 PM
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Also the reason why I didn't want paddles is that my car doesn't have them now and I thought it couldn't be retro fitted on. But then I did see one post with people mentioning it is possible to retrofit in the paddle functionality.
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That's odd... my M Sport has heasted steering wheel. There's a small buttton on the left side of the steering column to turn it on. No button on the wheel itself. Sadly, it didn't come with paddles in '12.
The 2012's had an issue where BMW was mistakenly "deleting" the paddle shifters off the M-sport steering wheel. You may want to see if that happened on your build too? My understanding is BMW is fixing the mistake (not sure how though), V/r, Tim
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:49 AM
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The 2012's had an issue where BMW was mistakenly "deleting" the paddle shifters off the M-sport steering wheel. You may want to see if that happened on your build too? My understanding is BMW is fixing the mistake (not sure how though), V/r, Tim
I definitely wouldn't have had the paddles in the first place. I'm in a 2010 and I have the standard steering wheel.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:24 AM
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All,

I'm doing some research on upgrading my standard steering wheel. I would like something similar to what the newer f01's have with the msport package (obviously without the paddles). It needs to be heated as well. Now I've seen all sorts of contradicting info on the difference between the too, but really all I want is a thicker wheel that higher quality and softer leather (feels almost like lamb skin leather). Which parts should I be searching for, sport or Msport steering wheel?
This should be the part # for an M sports wheel with heater: 32337842808

It is possible to retrofit paddles on an F10 5-series and was just done a few days ago. I'm gonna try and do this on my 7 this week or next. Will keep you all updated how it goes. Here is a link how someone just did it to their F10.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819162
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If you have the basic sw you also need the airbag. Other than that sws come with 3 options afaik. Vibration, heating and paddles. You can also check out the sw with the wood inlay my favorite.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:06 PM
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If you have the basic sw you also need the airbag. Other than that sws come with 3 options afaik. Vibration, heating and paddles. You can also check out the sw with the wood inlay my favorite.
Yes that is correct. If you are going from sport wheel to M Sport then the airbags should be compatible I am told, but not from regular wheel to M Sport. Your 3 options above are also right on. You can also swap out the trim if you wish.
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This should be the part # for an M sports wheel with heater: 32337842808

It is possible to retrofit paddles on an F10 5-series and was just done a few days ago. I'm gonna try and do this on my 7 this week or next. Will keep you all updated how it goes. Here is a link how someone just did it to their F10.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819162
Let us know how this goes and what part numbers are needed for the paddle shifters!
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Let us know how this goes and what part numbers are needed for the paddle shifters!
Will do, install is scheduled for this Friday. Sadly a whole new wheel is needed since the back has to be made to fit paddles specifically. Also having surround view camera retrofit done at the same time.

I will be the first F01/F02 he has done paddles on, so crossing my fingers we can get it to work.

He sold me the whole wheel with buttons, M trim and paddles all together as a package, so there is no specific part # sadly. :-(
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Will do, install is scheduled for this Friday. Sadly a whole new wheel is needed since the back has to be made to fit paddles specifically. Also having surround view camera retrofit done at the same time.

I will be the first F01/F02 he has done paddles on, so crossing my fingers we can get it to work.

He sold me the whole wheel with buttons, M trim and paddles all together as a package, so there is no specific part # sadly. :-(
It would actually be 4 different parts, steering wheel, buttons, trim, and air bag. I wonder why u couldn't just reuse use your existing buttons. Since you have driver assist don't you have that lane departure feature that needs the wheel to vibrate as well? Can't tell or not if your car supports heated wheel.
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It would actually be 4 different parts, steering wheel, buttons, trim, and air bag. I wonder why u couldn't just reuse use your existing buttons. Since you have driver assist don't you have that lane departure feature that needs the wheel to vibrate as well? Can't tell or not if your car supports heated wheel.
Buttons are also different between sport/m and non sport wheels.
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It would actually be 4 different parts, steering wheel, buttons, trim, and air bag. I wonder why u couldn't just reuse use your existing buttons. Since you have driver assist don't you have that lane departure feature that needs the wheel to vibrate as well? Can't tell or not if your car supports heated wheel.
I'm guessing he may have had this as overstock or something since it comes with everything except the airbag. I'm just gonna use my airbag. You are correct, there are many different parts. It is actually

1 - Steering Wheel (heated or non-heated)
2 - Paddles
1 - Vibration mechanism
2 - Multifunction buttons
1 - Trim
1 - Airbag

Parting it all out comes to around $2500. Expensive for just the parts.
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Hey Everyone, this is a great thread with lots of helpful information. I actually have an 09 750i with the sport wheel. BMW has replaced some internal buttons and parts under factory warranty due to peeling. Is anyone aware if they'll replace the steering wheel under factory warranty? There is no functional issue with it, but the wheel is black and the color is fading along with some of the thread coming loose. There is also a little bit of peeling on the leather. I think the last owner of the car left it out in the sun. Does anyone know if the dealer would replace it just as if it was another peeling part on the interior?
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Hey Everyone, this is a great thread with lots of helpful information. I actually have an 09 750i with the sport wheel. BMW has replaced some internal buttons and parts under factory warranty due to peeling. Is anyone aware if they'll replace the steering wheel under factory warranty? There is no functional issue with it, but the wheel is black and the color is fading along with some of the thread coming loose. There is also a little bit of peeling on the leather. I think the last owner of the car left it out in the sun. Does anyone know if the dealer would replace it just as if it was another peeling part on the interior?
If it was just fading, I would say no. But if thread is coming loose, then I think it needs to be replaced under warranty.
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If it was just fading, I would say no. But if thread is coming loose, then I think it needs to be replaced under warranty.
+1.

Let us know how it goes.
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Anybody know where the steering wheel part # would be located on the actual steering wheel? I'm trying to talk to this person about a used one, and he has no idea what the part # of the steering wheel is and I don't want to purchase the wrong one
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Those don't tell you how to tell what the part # of a steering wheel that you might already have. Like is there a part # etched on the steering wheel somewhere?
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Those don't tell you how to tell what the part # of a steering wheel that you might already have. Like is there a part # etched on the steering wheel somewhere?
It will probably be a sticker if it is still there at all. I havn't seen part #'s etched before.
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It will probably be a sticker if it is still there at all. I havn't seen part #'s etched before.
He's sent me these 2 #s which I can't make sense of...

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