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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 03-24-2013, 07:39 PM
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I have a 2002 325Ci. Now, I have a rear shock leaking oil and need to replace it. When I check online for a replacement, I see 2 options: standard or sport. Not sure if I have the sport one... Is there a way to get this information ? Here is the full VIN:

WBABN33422JW52591

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Go on oembimmerparts.com, and enter the last 7 digits of your VIN in the searchbox....they will provide you with a lot of useful info.

And read the E46 Wiki
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Hello,

I have a 2002 325Ci. Now, I have a rear shock leaking oil and need to replace it. When I check online for a replacement, I see 2 options: standard or sport. Not sure if I have the sport one... Is there a way to get this information ? Here is the full VIN:

WBABN33422JW52591

I appreciate your help,

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In the U.s. all coupes got sport suspension. Pretty sure yours would be as well.
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Thanks for the reply.

Pretty sure they are sport too... read the wiki and gotmy answer. Now looking for a replacement...stock oem or else, will see.

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In the U.s. all coupes got sport suspension. Pretty sure yours would be as well.
Is this true for 'verts too?
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Is this true for 'verts too?
I don't believe it is. My neighbor down the street has a 330cic that sits higher than mine, and does not have the sports seats, or wheels. The steering wheel is the same as mine though. Maybe it's a Frankenvert?
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I don't believe it is. My neighbor down the street has a 330cic that sits higher than mine, and does not have the sports seats, or wheels. The steering wheel is the same as mine though. Maybe it's a Frankenvert?
Agree. I have seen "non sport" vert models myself. Only coupes I believe.
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I don't believe it is. My neighbor down the street has a 330cic that sits higher than mine, and does not have the sports seats, or wheels. The steering wheel is the same as mine though. Maybe it's a Frankenvert?
I don't think so either, although my E46 cabrio brochure is in Dutch(?).

Sportieve onderstelafstemming wasn't standard, at least in the Netherlands in 2004.
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One last question... at first, I was planning to replace both rear shock even since only one is leaking... now I wonder if it will be best to replace the 4 shock... let's say I go Koni FSD, can I only change the rear shocks and keep the original front ones until they need to be replaced ? Year is 2002, got 114000 km on them.

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One last question... at first, I was planning to replace both rear shock even since only one is leaking... now I wonder if it will be best to replace the 4 shock... let's say I go Koni FSD, can I only change the rear shocks and keep the original front ones until they need to be replaced ? Year is 2002, got 114000 km on them.

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Change all 4. You will be much happier. That said, your fronts probably have some life left, but not a whole lot, depending on how the car was driven. The fact that you are willing to spend the money on the FSD's, tells me that yow want the full benefit that changing all 4 wil provide. Now let me see... which glass contains the iocaine powder?
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Thanks for your quick answer !

So changing the four would make more sense. Now, about the coil spring... shall I keep them ? They look in shape. None of them are broken. Again, would it be more logical to get the koni coil spring paired with the shocks or can I keep the original ones ?

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Thanks for your quick answer !

So changing the four would make more sense. Now, about the coil spring... shall I keep them ? They look in shape. None of them are broken. Again, would it be more logical to get the koni coil spring paired with the shocks or can I keep the original ones ?

Thanks again for your advises !

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In my case, I would stay stock, but it is your car. Do you like how it handles now? Could you stand a stiffer ride? Change just the shocks, and see how you like the ride. You may like it enough that you dont want to change anything else. Just make SURE that your springs are not broken. Look closely at the bottom to be absolutely certain.
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This is what I had in mind... but wanted to see if it is logical to change the four shocks while keeping the coil spring. Will make sure they are in good shape before moving forward.

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In the U.s. all coupes got sport suspension. Pretty sure yours would be as well.
NO. I dont believe that is true. It was optional and came with the Sports Package. I ordered mine as a new build from the factory and I had to add the Sports Package to get that. My car is a model year 2002.
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I have the 3 spoke steering, the sports seats and the 17 inches 5 spoke mag wheel so according to the wiki, I have the sport package.

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NO. I dont believe that is true. It was optional and came with the Sports Package. I ordered mine as a new build from the factory and I had to add the Sports Package to get that. My car is a model year 2002.
Check again. And read the wiki.

Coupes all have sport suspension.
Sports package is something different.
I have my new car brochure to prove it.
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Even this wiki knows about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3_Series_%28E46%29

Sport package (ZSP)

The sport package was available on all E46's, excluding cars with the Performance package and the M3. It consisted of a three spoke sports leather steering wheel and had improved grip over the standard "square" steering wheel. The sport package also included cruise control. The car was also given sport seats which provided better bolstering and support than the stock seats. They also had adjustable thigh supports and were available in manual or power. The sports package also offered 17-inch wheels standard, which came with staggered lower profile tires. Rear-wheel-drive models ordered with the Sport package also received sport suspension, which offered improved handling by way of firmer springs, a lower ride height, and tighter dampers.

So sport package includes sport suspension.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:19 AM
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Even this wiki knows about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3_Series_%28E46%29

Sport package (ZSP)

The sport package was available on all E46's, excluding cars with the Performance package and the M3. It consisted of a three spoke sports leather steering wheel and had improved grip over the standard "square" steering wheel. The sport package also included cruise control. The car was also given sport seats which provided better bolstering and support than the stock seats. They also had adjustable thigh supports and were available in manual or power. The sports package also offered 17-inch wheels standard, which came with staggered lower profile tires. Rear-wheel-drive models ordered with the Sport package also received sport suspension, which offered improved handling by way of firmer springs, a lower ride height, and tighter dampers.

So sport package includes sport suspension.
This is what i got. so the question is :

1. Was Sport suspension on the ZSP package = suspension on ALL coupes?

Just because it is in a WIKI does not make it true.

I will pull up my BMW docs.
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Consider going the other way. Your car has only 114,000 km, which equates to about 70,600 miles. That's nothing in terms of having to replace springs, struts, and shocks. One option is to replace the leaky shock with OEM quality shock, and then replacing all of them with either Koni or Bilstein HD shocks, struts, and shock mounts at around 200,000 km.

Case in point. I have an '01 330i with the sports package, ie, heavy duty stuff all around, like the coupe. At 145K miles (233,450 km) I replaced OEM suspension with Bilstein HD all around, no need to replace the springs. I am as happy as can be. About $764 for shocks, struts, mounts plus another $526 for installation and 4 wheel alignment.
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Consider going the other way. Your car has only 114,000 km, which equates to about 70,600 miles. That's nothing in terms of having to replace springs, struts, and shocks. One option is to replace the leaky shock with OEM quality shock, and then replacing all of them with either Koni or Bilstein HD shocks, struts, and shock mounts at around 200,000 km.

Case in point. I have an '01 330i with the sports package, ie, heavy duty stuff all around, like the coupe. At 145K miles (233,450 km) I replaced OEM suspension with Bilstein HD all around, no need to replace the springs. I am as happy as can be. About $764 for shocks, struts, mounts plus another $526 for installation and 4 wheel alignment.
+1 I don't think new springs are necessary unless you need ALL that the car can offer. I think you made the right move.
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Hello,

Got the info from the dealer about the VIN. Have a look at it. The dealer say that I don't have the sport package even if I got the 17" sport wheel, sport steering wheel and sport seats. It look like those options were taken separately and not as a package, leaving the shock standard, non-sport.

VIN long WBABN33422JW52591
Type code BN33
Type 325CI (USA)
Dev. series E46 (2)
Line 3
Body type COUPE
Steering LL
Door count 2
Engine M54
Cubical capacity 2.50
Power 141
Transmision HECK
Gearbox MECH
Colour ORIENTBLAU METALLIC (317)
Upholstery KUNSTLEDER/SCHWARZ (K4SW)
Prod. date 2002-03-13


Order options
No. Description
290 LT/ALY WHEELS STAR SPOKE 44
441 SMOKERS PACKAGE
473 ARMREST, FRONT
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
502 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM
520 FOGLIGHTS
522 XENON LIGHT
534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
548 SPEEDOMETER WITH KILOMETER READING
650 CD PLAYER
692 CD CHANGER I-BUS PREPARATION
785 WHITE DIRECTION INDICATOR LIGHTS
838 CANADIAN VERSION
896 DAYTIME LIGHTS FUNCTION
925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE
926 SPARE WHEEL


Series options
No. Description
249 MULTI-FUNCTION FOR STEERING WHEEL
255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
354 GREEN STRIPE WINDSCREEN
550 ON-BOARD COMPUTER
645 RADIO CONTROL US
661 RADIO BMW BUSINESS
823 HOT CLIMATE VERSION
832 BATTERY IN LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT
845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING
853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH
876 RADIO FREQUENCY 315 MHZ
992 NUMBER PLATE ATTACHEMENT MANAGEMENT


No sport package in the list...

So, with this information, I should get non-sport, standard shocks...

Anyone can confirm this conclusion ?

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So Sport Suspension is not standard on coupes? But the WIKI said it is was! ...







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look like it isn't... the best is to have your VIN explained by the dealer, long version.
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