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BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-26-2013, 02:32 PM
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I am new to BMW's, i have only had mine 5 months. I have always done my oil changes for all of my cars in the past and no dipstick in this car will not stop me, lol. I just have a few questions.

1. Do most people use the BMW filter?
2. Whats the proper way to check the oil level?
3. How many miles do you go between changes?
4. How do you reset the service reminder?
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:54 PM
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1. Don't know about most people, but I always go to the dealer to get oil and filters,
2. You check the oil level via iDrive for those who don't have a dipstick. And that's not always 100% right 100% of the time, but 100% right about 99% of the time. close enough, but not perfect.
3. 15K is what the dealer recommends based on the oil used. Gear heads like me go about 7500, no more than 8000. The extremists do 3-5K. That's not necessary.
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1. Don't know about most people, but I always go to the dealer to get oil and filters,
2. You check the oil level via iDrive for those who don't have a dipstick. And that's not always 100% right 100% of the time, but 100% right about 99% of the time. close enough, but not perfect.
3. 15K is what the dealer recommends based on the oil used. Gear heads like me go about 7500, no more than 8000. The extremists do 3-5K. That's not necessary.
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I am new to BMW's, i have only had mine 5 months. I have always done my oil changes for all of my cars in the past and no dipstick in this car will not stop me, lol. I just have a few questions.

1. Do most people use the BMW filter?
2. Whats the proper way to check the oil level?
3. How many miles do you go between changes?
4. How do you reset the service reminder?

I go every 5K miles considering my car is tuned..
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I am new to BMW's, i have only had mine 5 months. I have always done my oil changes for all of my cars in the past and no dipstick in this car will not stop me, lol. I just have a few questions.

1. Do most people use the BMW filter?
2. Whats the proper way to check the oil level?
3. How many miles do you go between changes?
4. How do you reset the service reminder?
My answers:
1. I go with OEM oil filters. (If you have a M54 engine its the Mann 925/4x, if you have a N52/N54/N55 its the Mann 816x and if you have a V8 then its a Hengst but i'm not sure whats the model)

2. The proper way to check the oil level is through the i-Drive. I don-t like it but its the only way. (I once had a faulty oil level sensor and it was a PITA. Sometimes it would report that i needed to add a QT and the next day it would say it was full and so on)

3. Well i usually go for 5K-7.5K kilometers (8-12 months), my driving conditions are horrible compared to you guys.
The oil life monitor in my car is set to 12K kilometers intervals unlike USA which is set to around 15K miles. (I know it adjusts over time based on driving conditions)

4. Already shown above.

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Old 03-26-2013, 05:18 PM
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Filters: I buy MANN filters online. Around $8 to $9.
Oil: I buy Mobil1 0W-40 whenever it's on sale. I have been paying $5+ per qt.
Interval: around 5K to 6K miles. This may be overkill... I am paying for it and I am happy with it.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:37 PM
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1. Don't know about most people, but I always go to the dealer to get oil and filters,
2. You check the oil level via iDrive for those who don't have a dipstick. And that's not always 100% right 100% of the time, but 100% right about 99% of the time. close enough, but not perfect.
3. 15K is what the dealer recommends based on the oil used. Gear heads like me go about 7500, no more than 8000. The extremists do 3-5K. That's not necessary.
4.
Awesome thanks, i think i will go 7,500 miles
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:38 PM
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Filters: I buy MANN filters online. Around $8 to $9.
Oil: I buy Mobil1 0W-40 whenever it's on sale. I have been paying $5+ per qt.
Interval: around 5K to 6K miles. This may be overkill... I am paying for it and I am happy with it.
Is 0W-40 what BMW says to use?
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:22 PM
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Is 0W-40 what BMW says to use?
BMW recommends Castrol, but that's just a deal they struck up somewhere between the two companies. And please, not say Castrol is a weak oil. (I don't want to start an oil war here LOL). Most people including myself use Mobil 1 5w-30. I've been using M1 on my cars for years.

I just switch to Royal Purple 5w-30 for my e60. I'm gonna stick with that brand for awhile, my engine seems to like RP. LOL
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:00 AM
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Is 0W-40 what BMW says to use?
I believe BMW approves the following oils -
* Castrol Syntec Euro Formula SAE 0W-30
* Mobil1 0W-40
* Pennzoil Platinum Euro Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
* Valvoline Syn Power SAE 5W-30

IMHO, any of the above will do the job, possibly other oils as well. Mobil1 marketing guys did a good job of convincing me :-)
Depending on the type of driving, oil change interval is important as well.

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Old 03-27-2013, 09:08 AM
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Regardless where I get the filter, all carry the same brand, hengst for my v8.
There is an oil dip stick on the rear engine of my v8. Not sure on the others. Idrive just takes too long to show up. 8.5qts of good 5-30w valvoline syn for me every 7k miles.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:14 AM
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BMW recommends Castrol, but that's just a deal they struck up somewhere between the two companies. And please, not say Castrol is a weak oil. (I don't want to start an oil war here LOL). Most people including myself use Mobil 1 5w-30. I've been using M1 on my cars for years.

I just switch to Royal Purple 5w-30 for my e60. I'm gonna stick with that brand for awhile, my engine seems to like RP. LOL
LOL, Castrol is good oil, not a problem if someone wants to use it (especially since it's the recommended)

I used M1 0W 40 in my first oil change for my 550, and I will probably switch back to Royal Purple on my next one. I have used RP products for a long time, even raced with it when I was racing my old Accord on the SCCA. Love the stuff.
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I did at one point use Castrol Syntec full Synthetic 5W 30 (Black bottle) for my X, and after a few hundred miles it was developing a rattle. No problem (thought VANOS crapping out) until after I switched back to the Castrol synthetic (from dealer) and noticed it wasn't rattling anymore. This was in my X, the 530i was good, but I switched back on both. I had to do some research and found out that particular Castrol Syntec has an SM API (minimum) rating, but I couldn't find out if it was LL-01 approved. You choose your oil here and use this site from BMW.
I'm not sure of the exact oil that comes in a BMW bottle (i'm sure it's Castrol) but if they sell it they better be sure it's approved for their engines.

That rattling was a concern to me so I just go to the dealer to get oil now, plus I get discounts and free stuff and my name gets updated in the system so if I sell my car there they see some type of oil purchase because the car doesn't go to them for issues as often as they would like.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:16 AM
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Depending on the type of driving, oil change interval is important as well.
Yup this is the most important factor.

I agree, all great oils as stated. As long as your not using 7 eleven brand oil in your expensive German vehicle then I think you'll be ok! LOL
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Dealer filters and oil. Dealer pricing is good in my area.

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Members don't let members drive to 15k miles oci.
Too much delicate component in these vehicle to let sludge gets in its way.
Sure LL oil is there. 15k highway miles is not the problem but adding the short trips and traffic jams to the factor.

Unless you're leasing and dumping the car back to dealer then im sure its ok to go 15k. As bmw is target for mostly lease customer.

For example, Vanos. These things need good oil passage to work properly.
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csnpsu you have a 528i correct? You'll need 7 quarts of for an oil change on N52 found in the 528i, the engine takes 6.9 quarts but you're safe over filling by a tenth of a quart.

For oil brands we've found the genuine BMW oil (a Castrol product) to be a great oil, other options our customers really like come from Liqui Moly (Lurbo Moly), Motul, Royal Purple, RedLine, Pentosin, and Total. The preferred weight per BMW is 5w-30, but some choose to run 0w40 or 5w40 with no issues. LINK to oils.

For the filter, Mann is the manufacture of the factory filter. We suggest going with either the genuine BMW or the Mann (LINK to filters for E60 528i)


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Many BMW oil pans have a drain plug on the side and towards the rear, but not all the way in the back and centered

This means that must you let the old oil drain while the vehicle is level, otherwise, old oil will remain in the pan.

Jack-up the car and remove the drain plug; then bring the car back down to allow it to complete its draining process.

Then jack it back up to remove/install the new oil filter and reinstall the oil plug.
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BMW recommends Castrol, but that's just a deal they struck up somewhere between the two companies. And please, not say Castrol is a weak oil. (I don't want to start an oil war here LOL). Most people including myself use Mobil 1 5w-30. I've been using M1 on my cars for years.

I just switch to Royal Purple 5w-30 for my e60. I'm gonna stick with that brand for awhile, my engine seems to like RP. LOL
Am i crazy or does the owners manual not have the capacities for the car.

I have a 2008 528i, how much oil does it take?
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Am i crazy or does the owners manual not have the capacities for the car.

I have a 2008 528i, how much oil does it take?
You'll need 7 quarts of for an oil change on N52 found in the 528i, the engine takes 6.9 quarts but you're safe over filling by a tenth of a quart.
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csnpsu you have a 528i correct? You'll need 7 quarts of for an oil change on N52 found in the 528i, the engine takes 6.9 quarts but you're safe over filling by a tenth of a quart.

For oil brands we've found the genuine BMW oil (a Castrol product) to be a great oil, other options our customers really like come from Liqui Moly (Lurbo Moly), Motul, Royal Purple, RedLine, Pentosin, and Total. The preferred weight per BMW is 5w-30, but some choose to run 0w40 or 5w40 with no issues. LINK to oils.

For the filter, Mann is the manufacture of the factory filter. We suggest going with either the genuine BMW or the Mann (LINK to filters for E60 528i)



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I bought my CPO 535xiT in August with about 38K miles. I assumed that the oil was changed as part of the CPO process. I just had the last "free" service at 49K miles, and the SA mentioned that the oil had not been changed since December of 2011, so I was past due by length of time even the though the I-drive said that I was OK. Anyway, what's done is done. Now that I own it, will changing oil every 7500 miles in the future be worth it if has been "abused" through long oil changes in its past life?
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I bought my CPO 535xiT in August with about 38K miles. I assumed that the oil was changed as part of the CPO process. I just had the last "free" service at 49K miles, and the SA mentioned that the oil had not been changed since December of 2011, so I was past due by length of time even the though the I-drive said that I was OK. Anyway, what's done is done. Now that I own it, will changing oil every 7500 miles in the future be worth it if has been "abused" through long oil changes in its past life?
All should be good if the car was CPO. I say that only because it was a BMW center, and even then it's questionable because dealers screw up sometimes. Either way they should scope the engine and ensure all is well. Many people run their car the intended 15,000 mile interval without any problems early on, then return the lease and get another.

Just don't go 20,000+ miles without a change, especially in the N54. I mean the car tells you when to change it and some people still say bah humbug. This is what can happen.

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Plus, you can't always count on dealer record and/or actions to be accurate. I bought my 08 535xi CPO a couple months ago..the record indicated the oil change just before the sale to me, but the car did not agree. Oil was changed as a precaution...

In any case, you have extremely little to worry about...just get to a 7500-9000 interval and you'll be fine.
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The best thing to do is get on line and look for dealer oel specials. They usually have them for ~$70. IF you DIY it will save you ~$20, and I dont think it is worth it. THEN you will have that critical certification that it was done. This is helpful at resale.
Additionally it is a PIA to DIY!

If it was a big savings it may be worth it but I dont think it is. You can take the alleged savings and buy a cup of Benzin. LOL
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Changing the oil yourself is one of the easiest things you can do. Plus it's fun! If you own a garage, have basic tools and a jack with stands, then you have no excuse not to do it yourself.
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