Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E60 (2004 - 2010)

E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-29-2013, 08:07 AM
JFIVE JFIVE is offline
Registered User
Location: Gaithersburg Maryland
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Mein Auto: 545i
Oil leak

Took my car in for an oil change on my 05 545i with a 158000 on it and found out the infamous alternator bracket seal is leaking
My indy quoted $900.00 for the repair
Is this a do it yourself job?
Any ideas if the price quoted is what it should cost

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 03-29-2013, 09:07 AM
2Bimmerowner 2Bimmerowner is offline
Registered User
Location: Alabama
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: X5 & 545i
Exclamation oil leak

I recently purchased a 2004 BMW 545i. Since purchasing this car it has been a money pit. The car seems to gave brake issues and an oil leak. I took it to the local BMW dealership and the bill to fix everything is going to be over $6,000. They quoted an $8 alternator bracket gasket along with a $2,200 labor cost. Also this same car occasionally displays temp too high, engine overheating error on display screen. Anyone know if this is a common issue and what is causing this. The engine is full of coolant and it is not actually overheating. Thanks for any insight on this problem.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-29-2013, 09:39 AM
bimmerfan52 bimmerfan52 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Arizona
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 954
Mein Auto: 545i
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFIVE View Post
Took my car in for an oil change on my 05 545i with a 158000 on it and found out the infamous alternator bracket seal is leaking
My indy quoted $900.00 for the repair
Is this a do it yourself job?
Any ideas if the price quoted is what it should cost

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Depends on how deep you are into "do-it-yourself".

I might try it if the need arise, but the description of loosening the engine mountings and raising the engine slightly to loosen a bolt in the alternator bracket sounds like a really major task for the average shade-tree mechanic.

I believe there are a few good DIY videos or at least write-ups covering the alternator bracket gasket change out.

Get second and third quotes if you have that many good Indies close to you, but it doesn't sound too bad.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-29-2013, 09:50 AM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFIVE View Post
Took my car in for an oil change on my 05 545i with a 158000 on it and found out the infamous alternator bracket seal is leaking
My indy quoted $900.00 for the repair
Is this a do it yourself job?
Any ideas if the price quoted is what it should cost

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App

It can be done DIY. I helped a more than a few friends do this before I got my own N62 (part of the reason I was unafraid of getting a V8). The only tricky parts were the Torx bolt right behind the power steering pump, and raising the engine. Raising the engine was easier than I expected, we ended up putting a block of wood under the oil pan and jacking up the engine slightly and VERY carefully. Total job took less than 8 hours.
It's ridiculous to pay $900 at an indy or the $1800 my buddy got quoted at the dealer for a job that is solely to replace a gasket that costs about $6.
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-29-2013, 11:01 AM
JFIVE JFIVE is offline
Registered User
Location: Gaithersburg Maryland
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Mein Auto: 545i
I agree with you on that
I worked on my previous bimmers, e28, e39, now the e60
The problem for me is not having a garage to work in to take it apart, dont think my property manager at my apartment would like that :thumbdown:

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-29-2013, 11:10 AM
JFIVE JFIVE is offline
Registered User
Location: Gaithersburg Maryland
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Mein Auto: 545i
@2Bimmeronwner dont pay the stealership that price they must be on some serious drugs Lol
The ocassional overheating may be a faulty coolant sensor or cooling fan may on its way out both do it yourself items you can tackle
Get the breakdown of what needs to be actually replaced from the dealer
I have a hard time paying more than $350 in labor for a $8 part, Now I believe the labor it may take to do the work may warrant the cost to some extent but I rather get my hands dirty than give money away

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-29-2013, 11:16 AM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFIVE View Post
I agree with you on that
I worked on my previous bimmers, e28, e39, now the e60
The problem for me is not having a garage to work in to take it apart, dont think my property manager at my apartment would like that :thumbdown:

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
There is a nationwide company, I think it's called Autohobby, where you can take your car use their tools and lifts and work on your car yourself for way less than going to a shop. Also, if you have a buddy willing to help, or let you use his garage, tools can be rented very cheap at most auto parts stores.
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-29-2013, 03:35 PM
JFIVE JFIVE is offline
Registered User
Location: Gaithersburg Maryland
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Mein Auto: 545i
Will check it out, If I end up doing it myself will post pictures of each step
Thanks for the info.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-29-2013, 04:04 PM
schpenxel schpenxel is offline
DIY'er
Location: Greensboro, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,312
Mein Auto: 2004 545i
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFIVE View Post
I agree with you on that
I worked on my previous bimmers, e28, e39, now the e60
The problem for me is not having a garage to work in to take it apart, dont think my property manager at my apartment would like that :thumbdown:

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
I've certainly done worse, lol. Changing the crossover pipe on mine in the parking lot currently..

It really depends on how comfortable you are doing it. I have read it can be done in a few hours if you know what you're doing and work fast
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-29-2013, 05:18 PM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by schpenxel View Post
I've certainly done worse, lol. Changing the crossover pipe on mine in the parking lot currently..

It really depends on how comfortable you are doing it. I have read it can be done in a few hours if you know what you're doing and work fast
Correct, I got a buddy here in SoCal that was a Master Tech in a previous life, he's got it down to about 4 hours.
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-29-2013, 05:31 PM
schpenxel schpenxel is offline
DIY'er
Location: Greensboro, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,312
Mein Auto: 2004 545i
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjinca View Post
Correct, I got a buddy here in SoCal that was a Master Tech in a previous life, he's got it down to about 4 hours.
I guess that's next on mine... it's about the only common thing left (but so far is completely dry)

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-30-2013, 11:14 AM
JFIVE JFIVE is offline
Registered User
Location: Gaithersburg Maryland
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Mein Auto: 545i
I found a auto hobby shop in my area
My indy is a great mechanic but gotta pinch pennies with this repair
While Im at it will replace the motor mounts since one needs to be removed
Well my property manager lucked out, I was all set with cardboard and oil dry Lol

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-01-2013, 10:13 AM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFIVE View Post
I found a auto hobby shop in my area
My indy is a great mechanic but gotta pinch pennies with this repair
While Im at it will replace the motor mounts since one needs to be removed
Well my property manager lucked out, I was all set with cardboard and oil dry Lol

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
LOL, cool deal on finding an Auto Hobby nearby.
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-01-2013, 11:14 AM
boost7 boost7 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Jose
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 307
Mein Auto: 05 545
Too bad I don't know anyone like you guys near me to help tackle my repairs. I want to do it myself, but don't have all the right tools, so I'm at the mercy of a shop.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-01-2013, 12:20 PM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by boost7 View Post
Too bad I don't know anyone like you guys near me to help tackle my repairs. I want to do it myself, but don't have all the right tools, so I'm at the mercy of a shop.
If you have a garage there really are no special tools required other than Torx bits and Torx sockets. There are a couple of hex bits needed, but that's it. We normally do it without a lift, just jack stands and elevate the engine using a 4x4 wood block under the oil pan, just gently (VERY gently) lift it and you're fine. This is a time consuming job, but not that hard to do really.
I mentioned my buddy got it down to about 4 hours, well this is his DIY about it:
http://forums.5series.net/diy-do-you...i-545i-120107/
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-01-2013, 04:08 PM
myates3 myates3 is offline
Registered User
Location: South Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 79
Mein Auto: 2006 550i
$900 is a pretty good deal from a mechanic although it is a DIY job if you have the time and patience. There are a few threads on this subject on the forum if you dig a little bit. If you want to DIY just be sure you have the necessary tools such as sockets for external torx on the engine mount otherwise you'll strip them (been there done that). Other than the tools you'll need to remove about a dozen parts to get to it, but to oversimplify the process you're just unbolting stuff and bolting it back on. Did mine a few months back and the gasket was $2.50. If you decide to give it a shot IM me and I'll provide the steps. Touch base with some of these other guys too as we've all had a little experience dealing with this design flaw. Good luck...
__________________

2006 550i
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-01-2013, 07:17 PM
boost7 boost7 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Jose
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 307
Mein Auto: 05 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjinca View Post
If you have a garage there really are no special tools required other than Torx bits and Torx sockets. There are a couple of hex bits needed, but that's it. We normally do it without a lift, just jack stands and elevate the engine using a 4x4 wood block under the oil pan, just gently (VERY gently) lift it and you're fine. This is a time consuming job, but not that hard to do really.
I mentioned my buddy got it down to about 4 hours, well this is his DIY about it:
http://forums.5series.net/diy-do-you...i-545i-120107/

pjinca - when will you be in NorCal, stop by and help me
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-01-2013, 08:55 PM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by boost7 View Post
pjinca - when will you be in NorCal, stop by and help me
LMAO, Bro, if I could I would. Seriously, if you need help/advice shoot my buddy from that link a PM he is pretty dang good at what he does.
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-04-2013, 05:28 PM
Kris@TSS's Avatar
Kris@TSS Kris@TSS is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: Fresno, California
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 159
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW 545i
I was lucky enough to find a good indy shop who had perform this service before. They charged me $350 to do it. The dealership told me $1500 because you have to drop sub frame. I would call some of your indy shops.
__________________
Kristina "Kris" Ash
www.thesuspensionsource.com
5654 E. Westover #112
Fresno, CA 93727
1-888-230-1288
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-04-2013, 06:04 PM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris@TSS View Post
I was lucky enough to find a good indy shop who had perform this service before. They charged me $350 to do it. The dealership told me $1500 because you have to drop sub frame. I would call some of your indy shops.
LOL, who told you they have to drop the subframe to replace the alternator bracket gasket? They must have been pulling your leg, I haven't had to do that at all, granted space is very limited (especially when you have hands like mine), but dropping the subframe is completely unecessary
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-04-2013, 06:13 PM
JFIVE JFIVE is offline
Registered User
Location: Gaithersburg Maryland
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Mein Auto: 545i
If the indy shop owner has some friends on the east coast that will do it for $350 let me know
Still planning on doing it myself next week.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Bimmer App
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-04-2013, 06:37 PM
The Nerd's Avatar
The Nerd The Nerd is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Ohio
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 411
Mein Auto: f30 335i
It seems like every other post I read regarding a BMW with over 100k miles is about these infamous oil leaks. I have an 05 545i with 115000 and it too enjoys peeing oil on my garage floor. I've had oil and coolant leaks fixed previously under my CPO warranty, and yet I've got another one. This time, it's a $2400 estimate (out of my own pocket).

So here's my question. In all seriousness....why can't BMW put higher quality seals and gaskets into its engines??? I mean, the Asian automakers apparently have found seals and gaskets that work just fine (my wife previously had an Acura MDX with 170k and I had an Acura TL with 140k...and neither EVER had any type of fluid leaks).

I know we don't buy BMWs because of their reliability....but c'mon Munich....throw us a bone here....why is it so hard to provide quality seals and gaskets???
__________________
335i Sport Line with MPPK
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-04-2013, 06:39 PM
schpenxel schpenxel is offline
DIY'er
Location: Greensboro, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,312
Mein Auto: 2004 545i
It's either for cost savings or because their seals are "better for the environment"

I'm betting it's the former.

I agree though, their seals are a joke and they should be ashamed of how crappy they are. I had a 1995 Civic with over 220K miles on it that didn't leak a bit of oil.. and I paid $500 for that one, lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nerd View Post
It seems like every other post I read regarding a BMW with over 100k miles is about these infamous oil leaks. I have an 05 545i with 115000 and it too enjoys peeing oil on my garage floor. I've had oil and coolant leaks fixed previously under my CPO warranty, and yet I've got another one. This time, it's a $2400 estimate (out of my own pocket).

So here's my question. In all seriousness....why can't BMW put higher quality seals and gaskets into its engines??? I mean, the Asian automakers apparently have found seals and gaskets that work just fine (my wife previously had an Acura MDX with 170k and I had an Acura TL with 140k...and neither EVER had any type of fluid leaks).

I know we don't buy BMWs because of their reliability....but c'mon Munich....throw us a bone here....why is it so hard to provide quality seals and gaskets???
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:36 AM
Kris@TSS's Avatar
Kris@TSS Kris@TSS is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: Fresno, California
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 159
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW 545i
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjinca View Post
LOL, who told you they have to drop the subframe to replace the alternator bracket gasket? They must have been pulling your leg, I haven't had to do that at all, granted space is very limited (especially when you have hands like mine), but dropping the subframe is completely unecessary
Both BMW and Indy shop told me that. I asked why because I saw the DIY on here. Needless to say the other indy shop I currently use did not have to.
__________________
Kristina "Kris" Ash
www.thesuspensionsource.com
5654 E. Westover #112
Fresno, CA 93727
1-888-230-1288
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-05-2013, 09:49 AM
pjinca pjinca is offline
USAF Pararescue Veteran
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,130
Mein Auto: 2008 550i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris@TSS View Post
Both BMW and Indy shop told me that. I asked why because I saw the DIY on here. Needless to say the other indy shop I currently use did not have to.
Cool, sounds like you got a helluva deal on the work. Most shops will charge you double that.
__________________

[B]2008 550 - Carbon Black/Black - M-sport, Cold Weather, Premium, NAV, Comfort Access, Logic 7 (LOADED, every option except night vision)

Previous 3 cars (the 550 is my 38th car):
2005 530i - Prem, Sport, NAV
2006 Jeep SRT-8
2003 Infiniti G35 coupe
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E60 (2004 - 2010)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms