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Old 06-07-2013, 03:22 PM
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My cup holder was not opening or closing properly. I had to press really hard and up to 4 times in order to get it to close...and to open. I have never put loose change or spilled anything inside the cup holder. I took it in and they said they had lots in stock because these break often.

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Old 06-07-2013, 06:01 PM
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If you have not abused it with spills and jamming objects, sounds like a warranty issue.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:03 PM
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My cup holder was not opening or closing properly. I had to press really hard and up to 4 times in order to get it to close...and to open. I have never put loose change or spilled anything inside the cup holder. I took it in and they said they had lots in stock because these break often.

Break often, what the hell this is not a ford its a BMW.
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Break often, what the hell this is not a ford its a BMW.
I thought the same... Previous poster: yes its warranty issue, that wasn't the point.
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Break often, what the hell this is not a ford its a BMW.
Well, Ford is about as bad as it gets based on this years Consumer Reports reliability surveys except for Dodge, but BMW is not all that much better, ranking below Lexus, Audi, MB, Infiniti, Cadillac, etc. Only trumping Volvo, Buick and Lincoln as far as premium brands.

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There is most likely something small like a bottle cap in the bottom of one of the cup holders.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:22 PM
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There is most likely something small like a bottle cap in the bottom of one of the cup holders.
No it's just horrible design and functionality.
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Possible but they just swapped it out
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I find the cup holders flimsy and don't really use them. I usually bring a sports bottle of water on the go and toss it in the passenger seat when I drive alone. With the family, I just toss it in the back.
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No it's just horrible design and functionality.
I have used it on my F10 for 3 years and it is fine with no issues.
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.... but BMW is not all that much better, ranking below Lexus, Audi, MB, Infiniti, Cadillac, etc. Only trumping Volvo, Buick and Lincoln as far as premium brands.
Ouch. One has to wonder what model/s from BMW are really dragging down its score.

I know 2011 F10's were disasters, and it seems they've (hopefully) fine tuned things by now on it.

The one and only area I'm not confident in my F10 over my previous Mercedes' is in durability and reliability. M-B started making their cars comparatively boring and non-cutting-edge in recent years, however the trade off to that was much improved durability and reliability (the early 2000's were full of M-B innovations which turned out to be horrible for their business as the products were very unreliable and faulty). BMW being more on the bleeding-edge and such makes me wonder how these cars will hold up in the long run.

I keep having this theory that BMW are "delicate" and it's unfortunate, but will say that I have absolutely no quality complaints on my F10 thus far. Hopefully it proves to be just as durable as my E-Classes were because if so, I'll have no reason at all to looks backwards.
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BMW does not have a very good track record with cupholders. It took them forever to include them and they were designed poorly and broke easily. E38/39 are perfect examples.


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BMW being more on the bleeding-edge and such makes me wonder how these cars will hold up in the long run..
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Still I love my F10 and have had no issues. (Cant find a Knock on Wood smilie)
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Well, Ford is about as bad as it gets based on this years Consumer Reports reliability surveys except for Dodge, but BMW is not all that much better, ranking below Lexus, Audi, MB, Infiniti, Cadillac, etc. Only trumping Volvo, Buick and Lincoln as far as premium brands.
If your putting your trust in consumer reports you have a lot more issues than that. Seriously that rag should stick to toasters and blenders.
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Spray WD-40 on the tiny hinges and it will work fine.
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If your putting your trust in consumer reports you have a lot more issues than that. Seriously that rag should stick to toasters and blenders.
They simply report the results of responses from their three million subscribers. Disagree with their reviews all you want (and I often do), but their reliability data is sound. JD Power dependability rankings show the same results for BMW.

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They simply report the results of responses from their three million subscribers. Disagree with their reviews all you want (and I often do), but their reliability data is sound. JD Power dependability rankings show the same results for BMW.
The data maybe correct, but it is one of those statistics that are not very help full to me....

I have never considered reliability ratings when buying a care, some people do, some do not. The people who drive Toyota and Daihatsu's are the kind that look for reliability (but do not get it always). My wife has a 2013 MKX, so called least reliable. It is a fantastic car, we have no issues whatsoever, true upmarket ride, high quality interior and very quiet. Am I just lucky?

I am very happy with the F10... even-tough the cup holders suck (wrong place, bad design); in my wives Lincoln they are way better :-)
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I guess I'm lucky that my cupholders never actually have "cups" in them. I wouldn't mind a car without cup holders as they're usually just design eye sores to me.

.... Well, okay, I put a bottle of water in there the other day. I usually just use it as my Cell Phone holder, but even then I like when the cover is closed so it doesn't compromise the interior design of seamless wood panel into plastic cup holders and the scattered items in them.

It's funny how important cup holders are to the general American populous. In ROW, the Mercedes CLS has an all wood panel center console just like the E Class, however ONLY in the U.S, Mercedes actually took out the wood center console and replaced it with an ALWAYS VISIBLE hideous cup holder setup. Not only is it shameful of M-B to compromise the interior look and quality of such a high priced car with a constant-plastic-cupholder console without at least a lid to cover them, but speaks volumes about how fed up the Germans are with American cup-holder-obsessed culture: "F*** it, we're tired of getting bad reviews because of our #*$#*$****$ cup holders, just put two big cup holders in the console of the CLS and don't give them a chance to even be covered, I don't care how elegant this car is supposed to be".

I've heard by car salesman that the general buying public cares more about the cup holders than about anything else in the car. America can be so funny.
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Two things that German engineers refused to spend time on.

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There were given a soda can and were told that it's an American must have.
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If your putting your trust in consumer reports you have a lot more issues than that. Seriously that rag should stick to toasters and blenders.
They simply report the results of responses from their three million subscribers. Disagree with their reviews all you want (and I often do), but their reliability data is sound. JD Power dependability rankings show the same results for BMW.

Firstly, the CR people may be the largest group of liberal geeks ever to be assembled at a magazine. However, they don't accept advertising so they have much more credibility than all the other car magazines combined. They have a state of the art car testing facility and buy the vehicles anonymously. Their dependability ratings are spot on and if one disagrees with a review that's fine- there is subjectivity involved.....

Oops, off topic. Americans like cup holders, and watching tackle football too. Yes, there are many cultural differences from Europeans. Cup holders are functional and needed in the opinion of most Americans- I don't think it cheapens the interior look of a BMW or a MB.
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If your putting your trust in consumer reports you have a lot more issues than that. Seriously that rag should stick to toasters and blenders.
They simply report the results of responses from their three million subscribers. Disagree with their reviews all you want (and I often do), but their reliability data is sound. JD Power dependability rankings show the same results for BMW.

Firstly, the CR people may be the largest group of liberal geeks ever to be assembled at a magazine. However, they don't accept advertising so they have much more credibility than all the other car magazines combined. They have a state of the art car testing facility and buy the vehicles anonymously. Their dependability ratings are spot on and if one disagrees with a review that's fine- there is subjectivity involved.....

Oops, off topic. Americans like cup holders, and watching tackle football too. Yes, there are many cultural differences from Europeans. Cup holders are functional and needed in the opinion of most Americans- I don't think it cheapens the interior look of a BMW or a MB.
When designed appropriately, then cup holders indeed don't affect interior design as they're perfectly hidden when need be.

Mercedes seemed to get fed up and IMO tarnished the interior of a car priced and presented prestigiously by sticking two huge cup holders smack dab in the console where the original EU versions have what's expected of any fundamental luxury car: A nice console lid to give a clean, uncluttered look to cover up something as ultimately utilitarian and "cheapo" looking as exposed cup holders.

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