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Old 04-05-2013, 07:57 PM
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One major letdown for me has been the ancient piss yellow looking angel eyes we F01 owners have had to endure. It was painfull going from a 2011 5 series to a 2012 7 series only to lose the LED AE's. (I'm not even going to start about why we still have the 6 speed tranny for 2012 and under owners).

Well- I found a solution that is near spot on. I tried PIAA H8s and while they were better, they were not great. I would say more white and less yellow- but yellow was still there. Well, I decided to try some ricer style 7k bulbs that might work well since they are so deflected by the housing. I was right- they worked! I'm not saying they are perfect, they don't have that electric blue look, but they have a slightly blueish look with ZERO yellow- and they are bright in direct sunlight!!! I took a pic with the sun facing the car head on biased to the left side- you can see the left headlight is in the direct reflection of the sun. In person they are very bright and look very HIDish. Pics don't even do it justice. I have not taken pics at night yet, but they are far more blue than in daylight, and frankly they blend right in with the headlights.

Here is the pic. On the right you might notice a slight smidge of tan/yellow to the lights- but that is the camera- in person there is only white/blue.




And the best part- they were $22 shipped

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400295377434...84.m1497.l2649
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:44 PM
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:48 PM
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One major letdown for me has been the ancient piss yellow looking angel eyes we F01 owners have had to endure. It was painfull going from a 2011 5 series to a 2012 7 series only to lose the LED AE's. (I'm not even going to start about why we still have the 6 speed tranny for 2012 and under owners).

Well- I found a solution that is near spot on. I tried PIAA H8s and while they were better, they were not great. I would say more white and less yellow- but yellow was still there. Well, I decided to try some ricer style 7k bulbs that might work well since they are so deflected by the housing. I was right- they worked! I'm not saying they are perfect, they don't have that electric blue look, but they have a slightly blueish look with ZERO yellow- and they are bright in direct sunlight!!! I took a pic with the sun facing the car head on biased to the left side- you can see the left headlight is in the direct reflection of the sun. In person they are very bright and look very HIDish. Pics don't even do it justice. I have not taken pics at night yet, but they are far more blue than in daylight, and frankly they blend right in with the headlights.

Here is the pic. On the right you might notice a slight smidge of tan/yellow to the lights- but that is the camera- in person there is only white/blue.




And the best part- they were $22 shipped

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400295377434...84.m1497.l2649
Ordered a set also. Will try to do a comparison of these and the 5000K Philips together.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:01 PM
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is the plastic where you twist your bulb into for the angel eyes clear plastic? Or is it yellowish clear plastic? Those do look good, any error codes? I've given up on my car.
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Nice!

Have you had any error messages?

Somebody had difficulties with e90:

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Old 04-06-2013, 12:22 AM
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I've had the PIAA for almost year, much nicer looking than the piss yellow bulbs and there's no errors.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:57 AM
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How difficult is to replace them? I have had hard time replacing them on my old E65
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:07 AM
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There are no error codes- there really shouldn't be since it is just replacing a 35w bulb with another 35w bulb. The error issues come from resistance differences associated with LEDs HIDs etc. I will say I accidentally tried a 50w bulb- that didn't work, the car sensed something was wrong and shut the bulb down. When I replaced with a 35w all was fine again. Make sure you get a 35w bulb

As far as install- it couldn't be easier. The trim plastic covering the headlights has a thumb sized lip designed for you to pull the plastic up with. Then behind the headlight is a 3" plastic disk that needs to be twisted off. Once the disk is out of the way, spin the bulb out and replace with the new bulb- be careful to NOT touch the glass of the bulb- it will shorten the life of it. Replace the disk and drop the cover back in place. I can now do each side in under 1-2 min.

Kar don- I don't know- its not that easy to see under the housing to see the plastic where it screws in. I would assume its white, I don't see why it would be yellow.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:14 AM
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Nice!

Have you had any error messages?

Somebody had difficulties with e90:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62500
I checked that thread- it's almost 6 years old- I'm guessing they have fixed things since then? I have had them in for a week without issues- and like I said, a 35w bulb is a 35w bulb- for there to be an error it would have to be improperly measured. Maybe they were making bulbs that were higher or lower wattage and selling them as 35w bulbs? That's the only thing I can think of.

At the end of the day it's $22, I figured if I don't like them I wasn't out any real money. Plus they do take them back - I returned my 50w bulbs and just paid shipping.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:20 AM
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Ordered a set also. Will try to do a comparison of these and the 5000K Philips together.
post results, my Philips 5000K is 3 years old and seems to have gotten more yellowish over time
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post results, my Philips 5000K is 3 years old and seems to have gotten more yellowish over time
Will do. My Philips have not even been installed yet, so both will be brand spanking new for comparison. Off to Disney Monday, so should have something up by next weekend if all goes well.
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I tried these in my fogs and they were too blue for me but they were better than the yellow stock color.
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I tried these in my fogs and they were too blue for me but they were better than the yellow stock color.
I agree- they are too blue when viewed directly. The AE housing cuts the blue down significantly in day and at night they match up with the headlights. You can see in the pick- there is only a little blue...
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I agree- they are too blue when viewed directly. The AE housing cuts the blue down significantly in day and at night they match up with the headlights. You can see in the pick- there is only a little blue...
That's what I was talking about. You can see where you are inserting the bulb looks yellow... which I think weakens the blueness of the bulbs. That's why I was asking what your car looks like.
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I just ordered mine and looking forward to seeing how they will turn out. I never did like the yellowish look. I hope these will turn out like Emilner has posted. I will let you guys know it turns out. I hope the installation is as easy as described.
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I agree- they are too blue when viewed directly. The AE housing cuts the blue down significantly in day and at night they match up with the headlights. You can see in the pick- there is only a little blue...
Attaboy!!!

Good thinking of getting something ricey blue to stick in the AEs which yellow out the light.

Hopefully this is a good long term solution with you guys. So dumb BMW couldn't update the AEs for 2010 or 2011 to match the 3/5/X5/X6 updated ones.

I was happy with my HID kit, but long-term I'd worry about extra heat and the rings. If you're getting good results with just a 35W bulb, that's a no-brainer.

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That's what I was talking about. You can see where you are inserting the bulb looks yellow... which I think weakens the blueness of the bulbs. That's why I was asking what your car looks like.
If I have a chance I will take a look.
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I put in the PIAA and I don't see much of an improvement. The housing where the bulb goes in is a yellowish color. This is blocking the true white color of the bulb. Does anyone have this same issue? How do you change that yellow housing? or what solution is there?
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I put in the PIAA and I don't see much of an improvement. The housing where the bulb goes in is a yellowish color. This is blocking the true white color of the bulb. Does anyone have this same issue? How do you change that yellow housing? or what solution is there?
This must be what the Fock I've been seeing and trying to tell everyone. the larger outer rings definitely are not as White/HID in appearance as the inner rings with my new bulbs. BUT, it is still MUCH better than stock that's for damn sure! So there is in fact something in the outer rings which is blocking/reducing the light huh? I'd sure like to know WTF it is and how to remove it...

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I put in the PIAA and I don't see much of an improvement. The housing where the bulb goes in is a yellowish color. This is blocking the true white color of the bulb. Does anyone have this same issue? How do you change that yellow housing? or what solution is there?
Have you read this thread????
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This so called "housing", has anyone identified how it works? Can it be removed or modified? If so, maybe we can indeed achieve near F10 brightness.
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well i was thinking maybe if we put in a reflective metal sleeve into the yellow cylindrical housing it would reflect and intensify the blue light from the bulb and reduce the yellow. I don't really have the means to fabricate something like that...

it appears out of all the halgoen AE BMW's that the F01 design is the least forgiving for blue lights, especially the LED solutions. I saw a Y style LED solution that looked awesome on the X5, and E90 but absolutely terrible on the F01.
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well i was thinking maybe if we put in a reflective metal sleeve into the yellow cylindrical housing it would reflect and intensify the blue light from the bulb and reduce the yellow. I don't really have the means to fabricate something like that...

it appears out of all the halgoen AE BMW's that the F01 design is the least forgiving for blue lights, especially the LED solutions. I saw a Y style LED solution that looked awesome on the X5, and E90 but absolutely terrible on the F01.
From what I can tell it seems the issue isn't with blue LEDs- it's with the output they provide. Most of them are to dim in the daytime.
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Yes I read the thread, but I am skeptical. I will try those ricer style 7k bulbs. Just bought a set from Ebay. I will post "good" before and after photos and let you guys know if this is really better.
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