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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 04-15-2013, 05:43 PM
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Best year E60 535i

I'm looking to purchase my first BMW and have decided on an E60 535i based on family needs and price point. I'm looking for opinions on which year model 535i is the most reliable from 2006-2009. My price range is low $20's and I'm located in south Texas. There seems to be quite a few 2008's in the low $20's that have 50-90k miles. This will be my wifes daily driver and our family vacaction road trip car. I plan on keeping it for 5 years or so before upgrading to a newer model. We would really like to buy a 7 series but after just a little research on those it seems that they are very problematic and might cost a small fortune at the service department. Any help and opinions are really appreciated. Thanks
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:52 PM
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The only general reliability problem was the high pressure fuel pump, and, since the recall and installation of the updated model, there are no other general reliability problems.

If it was me, I would get the latest model, lowest miles car I could. The 535 first came out in the 2008 model year. The top engine early E-60 was the 530, and it was a non turbo, pre LCI model.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:57 PM
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so 2008 was the first year they made the twin turbo V6 535i? Is that a good thing or bad thing? I've always heard to stay away from the first year of any new engine or redesign.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:57 PM
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Look for mid year 2009 or later, as my recommendation, if you're getting one with iDrive. There was a big change that makes it much easier to use. You'll know if has the update if you have extra buttons around the iDrive control know for the radio, nav, cd, menu, etc.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:29 PM
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Are there any major mechanical or electrical issues for 2008? It seems that that year is the most affordable. The 2009' are in the mid to upper 20's and I'm really trying to stay in the low 20's. It seems that 2008 might be the one I have to pick.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:51 PM
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so 2008 was the first year they made the twin turbo V6 535i? Is that a good thing or bad thing? I've always heard to stay away from the first year of any new engine or redesign.
It is a straight six, and it first came out in the 2007 335i series. 2008 was the first year they put that engine in the 5.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:56 PM
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Is it something that will we be reliable for a family road trip and wifes car?
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:59 PM
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08 engines have shown no early model problems like it was stated later years have better idrive and such, newest model lowest miles you can get... and Always get a service history from a bmw dealer even if you dont get it from a dealer..
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I have a 2008, & the only issues I had the HPFP failure at 30k, with two injectors, & a headlight module. I now have 49k going on 3 yrs.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:56 PM
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I bought my 09 535ix in June of 2010 with 7,500 mi on it - replaced the high pressure fuel pump at 13,000. It just turned 60,000 and have loved every mile of it. Fantastic handling, comfortable drive and power to burn.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:53 AM
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Reliability seems uniform across model-year on 535i, but go get 2009 or later with factory m-sport package. I always like the factory paint all the way around.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:03 PM
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Would you buy a 2008 with 97K miles or or a 2008 with 50K miles? Both are priced the same and have similar packages.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:08 PM
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Would you buy a 2008 with 97K miles or or a 2008 with 50K miles? Both are priced the same and have similar packages.
Is this a serious question ?
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:10 PM
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Well everybody says to buy 2009 so I just was curious if miles are that big of a deal to make an 08 the better option.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:15 PM
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Well everybody says to buy 2009 so I just was curious if miles are that big of a deal to make an 08 the better option.
*Would you buy a 2009 with 97K miles or a 2008 with 50K miles?*
That's what you're tying to ask, yes?
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:30 PM
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Yes thats what I'm asking.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:06 PM
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Always go with the lower mileage car with all other things being equal. Some of the major wear items are going to start to pop up as you approach 100K miles. Looking at it logically, the 2009 has three extra years worth of mileage on it compared to the 2008. Make sure that you expand your search to as far as you are comfortable driving or flying as you will being to get some better deals. If you are wanting to keep the car under $25000 you should be able to find some mid mileage 2009's, some low mileage 2008's and possibly at 2010 with under 60,000 miles. I picked up my 2010 535xi for 25K with 58000 miles a few months back. The deals are out there but you have to be patient. It seems that the best deals can be had in texas and so. florida markets.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:28 PM
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The market here in south Texas is great for used cars. You can find really good deals. I've been buying and selling cars just for fun for the past 10 years or so so I'm very familiar with shopping for deals. What I'm not sure of is reliability of these bmw's that I'm looking to buy. I've never been one to be scared of high mileage vehicles as long as I'm sure the previous owner took care of it. What I'm trying to find out is if late 2009 cars were that much more reliable than 2008's to make me purchase one with higher miles than buy a lower mileage 2008.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:55 PM
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The market here in south Texas is great for used cars. You can find really good deals. I've been buying and selling cars just for fun for the past 10 years or so so I'm very familiar with shopping for deals. What I'm not sure of is reliability of these bmw's that I'm looking to buy. I've never been one to be scared of high mileage vehicles as long as I'm sure the previous owner took care of it. What I'm trying to find out is if late 2009 cars were that much more reliable than 2008's to make me purchase one with higher miles than buy a lower mileage 2008.
Mechanically, they are not much different. 2008 was the first year of the mid cycle refresh, and 2009 is the second year. Since the major changes happened at the 2008 year, mechanically, the 2009 is very similar, there were some changes to the iDrive.
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I think the answer you're looking for is this, the cars are mechanically identical when it come to engine mechanics, interiors are the same, 2010 got the new drive which is nice. If you look at Consumer reports reliability, it shows more problems with 2008's mainly with cooling, fuel system, minor engine. Most of this is attributed to the well know HPFP problems and I'm sure it's influenced by the people that had to live through the initial problems. Those problems have been mainly resolved so as long as you do a complete check of the service history you should be good whichever way you go. Remember I stated to go with the lower mileage with all things being equal, meaning both have had their regular maintenance, very good chance each will have had the HPFP replaced, documented regular oil changes and so on. They did not change anything with the engine in these cars, they improved certain components that had been causing all the problems.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:16 PM
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I asked if it was serious because it didn't say 2009 it says 2008 for both cars so I was like wtf lol but yes buy the lower mileage car.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:32 PM
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yeah that was my mistake.

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:34 PM
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I think the answer you're looking for is this, the cars are mechanically identical when it come to engine mechanics, interiors are the same, 2010 got the new drive which is nice. If you look at Consumer reports reliability, it shows more problems with 2008's mainly with cooling, fuel system, minor engine. Most of this is attributed to the well know HPFP problems and I'm sure it's influenced by the people that had to live through the initial problems. Those problems have been mainly resolved so as long as you do a complete check of the service history you should be good whichever way you go. Remember I stated to go with the lower mileage with all things being equal, meaning both have had their regular maintenance, very good chance each will have had the HPFP replaced, documented regular oil changes and so on. They did not change anything with the engine in these cars, they improved certain components that had been causing all the problems.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much!
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:58 PM
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This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much!
I have a 2008.

Did the recall, got the new fuel pump, but did not have a problem with the initial one.

Make sure they changed the spark plugs at 45K or so. But, the car has been fine.

Note, I garage the car, so it did not go throught the normal winter temperature changes that a car staying outside did.

These cars, like all others, require regular maintenance, and it costs more. So make sure the car was well maintained.
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I'd put my money in a newer 528i instead.

But the power of the 535i is very attractive.
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