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Old 04-18-2013, 02:27 PM
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Hawk ceramic brake pads question

Looking to get my OEM front brake pads changed out with Hawk brake pads (these), was wondering if anyone has any experience with these particular brake pads and did you notice any loss in grip or bite when stopping once they were on. I'd like someone from 09 and prior to chime in if possible due to 2010s and up switching to softer brake pads (Jurid 208 organic compound, from Jurid 422 (semi-metallic I think)) and therefor in comparison will probably feel better than OEM.

Was looking to replace my fronts to ceramics due to an ongoing squeal problem (only when at low speeds and after car is driven for 35-45 mins) and was not wanting to lose the bite and grip I get when braking. I have tested a 2010 335i that had a mushier brake feel and wanted to avoid that with the new pads. Also, will a difference from front to rear pads (rear being Jurid 208 Organic and the fronts possibly being Ceramics) mess with the balance of the car under hard braking? I have heard you aren't supposed to mix and match brake pads due it it possibly changing the braking characteristics of the car. Anyone heard of this?


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Old 04-18-2013, 07:41 PM
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I recently switched to Akebono pads and Zimmerman rotors and I'm very happy with that setup. Excellent stopping, no squeal and no dust.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:06 PM
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I recently switched to Akebono pads and Zimmerman rotors and I'm very happy with that setup. Excellent stopping, no squeal and no dust.
Is yours an 09 or prior Bill? And did you notice any less of a bite? (the first inch or so of brake pedal movement gives a hard "bite" sensation from the brakes)

Also, those Akebono pads are ceramics right?
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Mine in an '07. You could describe it as less initial bite. But they have excellent stopping power. If I felt stopping loss I definitely wouldn't praise them. I really like the different feel, and love the no dust. I've been reading good reviews about the Akebono's for years and decided to finally give them a try. I figured if I didn't like them I would switch back to OEM. That's not happening...
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:30 PM
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I would second Bill-SD's experience. Did it myself and saved a bunch!
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Which type of akebono's did y'all get? Euro, Pro-act, or Performance?
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Which type of akebono's did y'all get? Euro, Pro-act, or Performance?
I got Euro.
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Did you also have the right rear brake squeaking issue when you were taking off or only when stopping?
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Did you also have the right rear brake squeaking issue when you were taking off or only when stopping?
I had a right rear squeal when at speed from 0-30mph accelerating (once driven for 30-45 mins) and the change in pad compound for the rear pads fixed that one. The front squeal is when braking from 30-0 and occasionally when turning at a certain angle to the left. Weird problem but I'm hoping ceramic brake pads fix it. The dealership already threw new rotors and pads (same semi-metallic compound) at it as well as used brake quiet and greased everything in the brakes. Been going back to the dealership for so long that now I am out of warranty and they don't want to touch it anymore. I tried pushing to get more pads like the rear that they fixed and I was told "We have done so much for you to try and fix this, you're really pushing it" like I am supposed to be grateful that they are trying to fix the problem.

And thanks Bill & Princeton, going to try out some ceramics. Hopefully it will fix the issue with a bonus of lower dust.
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I recently switched to Akebono pads and Zimmerman rotors and I'm very happy with that setup. Excellent stopping, no squeal and no dust.
I just got the Akebono pads on the front and couldn't be happier! They don't have the initial bite of the OEM pads, but if you aren't on the track they will be fine. And NO DUST!!! No squeal either
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Stop Tech pads are also very good, low dusting as well.
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Well I got the new ceramics on and they are good at braking but not as good as OEM, the initial bite is gone as well. But on the upside I have a lot less dust, and it did get rid of the infamous squeal on my back right wheel. Still good braking when you get on them too so it's not too bad. I think it's a fair trade off considering how annoying that squeal was and considering I already had brand new OEM pads put on all four wheels that solved nothing. Apparently the infamous squeal has to do with the brake pad compound and the rotor.
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I'll take less stopping distance over the brake dust any day as this car stops waaaayyy sooner than anything I've ever driven already!
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I'll take less stopping distance over the brake dust any day as this car stops waaaayyy sooner than anything I've ever driven already!
+1!
Plenty of stopping power for street use. If I was doing a trackday, I would.go with OEM and not care about dust.But as that is not the case, I will be praising these non OEM pads all day long because there is no dust!
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Has anyone tried new OEM pads - wondering if BMW has changed the compound on the e9x pads, my 2014 X3 brakes feel just as good as all BMW brakes, but they have absolutely no dust whatsoever - if BMW is selling that same material on the E9x replacement pads, I would go OEM and get the best of both worlds!
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Has anyone tried new OEM pads - wondering if BMW has changed the compound on the e9x pads, my 2014 X3 brakes feel just as good as all BMW brakes, but they have absolutely no dust whatsoever - if BMW is selling that same material on the E9x replacement pads, I would go OEM and get the best of both worlds!
If that's the case, I would def go OEM...
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Everything looks the same on realoem, but the pads have 2 different part numbers

34116794917 - up to 9/2009
34116794920 - from 9/2009 to current

Be curious to know if the new number is just the new low dust pad or if there is something else that changed.
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This thread seems to confirm that it changes around 2009-2010

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=639382

I may order some newer pads and give it a try!
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