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Old 04-20-2013, 02:03 PM
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Take a look at the picture. My wife came home and said the TPMS indicated loss of air in the tire. When I checked the tire I saw the big gash. Ask her what happened and dhf said she hit a pothole. Now for the question. Would you drive this 15 miles to the dealer of call a tow truck?

Do you think this tire will support the car for another 15 miles of driving?

I will tell you the answer after I get some opinions:-)
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:06 PM
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I'm gonna say no...
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:07 PM
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Do you have a picture of the tire portion contacting the ground?

Wouldn't BMW Roadside assistance give you a quick free tow to the dealership? That would undoubtedly be the safer route for you and your car
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:11 PM
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By the look of that rim directly below the rip, I would say no.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:13 PM
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What brand, model is the tire? GY?
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:18 PM
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Looks like a Michelin Primacy. Whatever it is, if you can drive 15 more miles on that puppy without ruining the wheel - I might just be a run flat convert. Might be.


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Old 04-20-2013, 02:26 PM
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I would say drive on it. Pull over every mile or two then check on it. If it gets worse then call the tow.

Lesson #2.... Don't let your wife drive the car anymore! J.k


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Old 04-20-2013, 03:14 PM
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I would say drive on it. Pull over every mile or two then check on it. If it gets worse then call the tow.

Lesson #2.... Don't let your wife drive the car anymore! J.k


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Old 04-20-2013, 04:09 PM
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I'm curious about this. I keep wondering, if we're so afraid to drive our "run flats" if flat, then WTF is the point of them? It's like BMW forces you to play a game of chicken with your expensive wheels.
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:12 PM
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I drove about 35 miles on a tire that looked much worse, made it without issue.


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Old 04-20-2013, 04:16 PM
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I would drive to my dealer with this tyre not exceeding 40-45km/h

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Old 04-20-2013, 04:35 PM
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I would say no. That tire is not just flat, the whole structure of that tire is comprimised.
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:37 PM
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You can drive it there; but, first, you should call the dealer just to make sure they have the tire in stock. Did you get the road hazard insurance?
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:42 PM
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And lesson #3 is ..... Don't replace it with another Rolling Rock Run-Crap.
From the appearance of the tire my guess is that pot hole would have done-in a conventional tire as well. Northeast roads can be murderous on wheels and tires, especially in the Spring.
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It looks like the belt is separating from the sidewall I would not risk it, ultimately I don't think a runflat tires is designed for this type of damage to drive on.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:00 PM
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From the appearance of the tire my guess is that pot hole would have done-in a conventional tire as well. Northeast roads can be murderous on wheels and tires, especially in the Spring.
What we do know without guessing is .....

with a Non RFT chances for tire/wheel survivial are substancially increased.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:02 PM
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So let me explain what I did. I was concerned about driving on the tire not knowing if I would destroy my rim. I have the tire insurance so even if I did destroy the rim I would be covered, but of course concerned about safety.

I called my service rep and sent him picture asking him his opinion if it was drivable. He said that he has seen much worse, and that I would be able to drive it safely. When I started to drive it I was not so sure I would make it. As you can imagine it was a but rough. It was a front tire.

I kept my speed below 40, and to my surprise was able to make it to the dealer without incident.

They had a tire and changed it right away on a Saturday morning.

So lessons learned.

I live in NJ so always get wheel and tire insurance. I thought 18inch rims would not be so bad but in little over a year I had cracked rim, bent rim and replaced 2 tires, so well worth it.

I guess run flats can get your out of a jam. They ride rough, they are fragile, but you can drive the hell out if them when they do fail.

And final lesson. Never blame your wife for hitting a pothole. Blame the tire for not surviving the hit!
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:04 PM
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By the way this is the car with no flat.
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Wow, I always assumed RFT's were at least more durable than conventional tires in withstanding abuse from potholes and such. Lame that they aren't.
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No their definately not as durable and yes that is Lame.

Compared to Non-RFT's, they also wear out faster, are heavier, ride harder, hook up poorly, hand worse and cost more.

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So let me explain what I did. I was concerned about driving on the tire not knowing if I would destroy my rim. I have the tire insurance so even if I did destroy the rim I would be covered, but of course concerned about safety.

I called my service rep and sent him picture asking him his opinion if it was drivable. He said that he has seen much worse, and that I would be able to drive it safely. When I started to drive it I was not so sure I would make it. As you can imagine it was a but rough. It was a front tire.

I kept my speed below 40, and to my surprise was able to make it to the dealer without incident.

They had a tire and changed it right away on a Saturday morning.

So lessons learned.

I live in NJ so always get wheel and tire insurance. I thought 18inch rims would not be so bad but in little over a year I had cracked rim, bent rim and replaced 2 tires, so well worth it.

I guess run flats can get your out of a jam. They ride rough, they are fragile, but you can drive the hell out if them when they do fail.

And final lesson. Never blame your wife for hitting a pothole. Blame the tire for not surviving the hit!
Great result! I'm happy to learn that it all worked out for you.
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No their definately not as durable and yes that is Lame.

Compared to Non-RFT's, they also wear out faster, are heavier, ride harder, hook up poorly, hand worse and cost more.

What's Not to Love.


Gotta say, the F10 chassis and overall build must be even more incredible than I even thought, because I've never felt a setback from the tires (I have the newer Pirelli P-Zero RFT's which apparently are getting pretty good reviews). Compared to my previous E-Class which sounded loud, rode harsh, and just felt fumbly on anything but perfect road surfaces. I can only IMAGINE how good my car now would feel with proper tires then. Being LESS durable and more heavy, etc. is just pathetic.
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I keep wondering, if we're so afraid to drive our "run flats" if flat, then WTF is the point of them?
Isn't it obvious? You, the affluent, are asked to do your part for a community. You are given a crappy, expensive-to-develop product and are asked to be beta testers while nicely paying for the privilege so that huddled masses of tomorrow can drive on a safer tire. Don't you feel proud? I know I would if I didn't throw my RFTs in the dumpster quite some time ago
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