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Old 04-21-2013, 02:19 PM
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stock black exhaust tips rusting

hi guys,
my stock black 7/2012 550 exhaust tips are bubbling and paint has faded away. will the dealer replace these? is it part of the muffler as one peace?

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Old 04-21-2013, 03:00 PM
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The are all part of the muffler - no way to just replace the tips. That's what you get for backing your boat into salt water with your 550
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The are all part of the muffler - no way to just replace the tips. That's what you get for backing your boat into salt water with your 550
lol.. btw. it don't float

i cant be the only one this is happening too
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:35 AM
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That's weird. Is this a common problem? Love that black-chrome look on the tips. Would be unfortunate if they aren't durable.

Are the tips able to be separated from the muffler on the 535i?
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I thought they were chrome, black-anodized - not painted Will have to inspect mine after the salty winter...
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:07 AM
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The are all part of the muffler - no way to just replace the tips. That's what you get for backing your boat into salt water with your 550
You can actually change the tips. If you grab it real tight and do a 1/4 turn twist the tip will un-hook and you just have to pull it out. They're only secured by 3 pressure clips. I know this because I pulled them out this weekend to measure them for a 4" tip install.

PS. The chrome one is the OEM and the Black chrome is one of the Cyba tips that I'm installing.

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jjsC6 is right. The tip removal only works for the 535's and the M5's. I failed to realize that the OP has a 550i
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:00 AM
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WRONG, You can actually change the tips. If you grab it real tight and do a 1/4 turn twist the tip will un-hook and you just have to pull it out. They're only secured by 3 pressure clips. I know this because I pulled them out this weekend to measure them for a 4" tip install.
The OP has a 550i. The muffler tips are different. I don't know if they can come off or not but it's just one squared off tip, not two circular tips so it may not twist off.
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The OP has a 550i. The muffler tips are different. I don't know if they can come off or not but it's just one squared off tip, not two circular tips so it may not twist off.
My bad, That's what happens when you're tired and don't pay attention to details.

You're right, this method only works for the 535's, M5's and not sure if for the 528's.
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My bad, That's what happens when you're tired and don't pay attention to details.

You're right, this method only works for the 535's, M5's and not sure if for the 528's.
Could you post some before and after shots of your new tips?
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I haven't installed it yet. I was going to do it this weekend but something came up.


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I'm getting more and more pessimistic of the F10 build quality What I thought was black "chrome-anodized" tips on my 528xi exhaust proved to be a cheap paint, and it's just coming off the tips exposing metal, which will sure corrode very soon. And this is on a car that was build less than 6 months ago!

When I was selling my 10-years-old 330i, its chrome double tips were still like new and shiny...

To the OP (and others with similar experience): will BMW service replace the tips on warranty, or will I be better off to just buy some aftermarket ones? If the latter, any source for good quality black tips for the 2013 528xi? I prefer black, as my Alpine White car looks great with black accents here and there (I have just replaced the silver kidney grills with the black ones)....
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Whaaaat. That sucks. They seem chrome anodized (not painted) on my car?
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Well, I'm still unsure about the treatment of the external tip surface - the corrosion starts from inside (where the condensed water with exhaust chemicals tend to stay).

Anyway - as can be seen in the pic, this doesn't look like a 6-month-old Luxury vehicle
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Hey OP - did you get your rusting tips replaced by BMW?
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:31 PM
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Well, I'm still unsure about the treatment of the external tip surface - the corrosion starts from inside (where the condensed water with exhaust chemicals tend to stay).

Anyway - as can be seen in the pic, this doesn't look like a 6-month-old Luxury vehicle
Mine look very similar. Definitely not what you would expect from a less than one year old BMW.
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Guys, I'd really be grateful on some more feedback on this... We have now 3 complaints about rusting tips (including mine own), and if I'm not mistaken, all are 2013 models. Does it mean owners of older F10s do not have this problem? If so, it would mean BMW started cost cutting only recently - and chances are they will return to the old technology of chrome-anodizing the tips, in which case it would make sense to wait a year or so, and only then request replacement. Doing it now could result in getting new tips from the same batch, i.e. also rusting.

If on the other hand, all F10 have had this problem since day one, the owners of the first models probably have already replaced their exhaust tips, in which case we would benefit if they informed us which way they followed (warranty replacement by BMW, or some aftermarket ones).

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Guys, I'd really be grateful on some more feedback on this... We have now 3 complaints about rusting tips (including mine own), and if I'm not mistaken, all are 2013 models. Does it mean owners of older F10s do not have this problem? If so, it would mean BMW started cost cutting only recently -

COST CUTTING - YES.

2013 / March production:

ConnectedDrive - fail.

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Doors stick (due to cheap seals). Sunroof auto-reverses.


BUT... it drives like a BMW should...
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Please keep us posted, is the new tip a twist on too or do you have to weld it in?
WILCO. I'll be back home in 2 weeks and this is the first thing on my to do list.
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Well, I'm still unsure about the treatment of the external tip surface - the corrosion starts from inside (where the condensed water with exhaust chemicals tend to stay).

Anyway - as can be seen in the pic, this doesn't look like a 6-month-old Luxury vehicle
After a couple of moths since the above message, the left pipe is even more rusted, and the stains on the ground right under it are now huge. Meaning there is lots of condensate being spit out of the left pipe at each cold engine start...

Questions:

- is it normal for 7-months-old car with some 9k miles?
- why is only the left pipe spitting, and corroding?
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OK, so I have found an explanation why only the left pipe is spitting out condensed exhausts gases - it's the one without a valve/flapper in it. Still, I am lost:

- my previous BMW pipes were always dry and gray; would the fuel/air mixture be too rich in the 528ix?
- has anyone with a similar problem had their tail pipe(s) replaced on warranty, and are the currently made BMW black-chrome pipes more corrosion-resistant?
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OK, so I have found an explanation why only the left pipe is spitting out condensed exhausts gases - it's the one without a valve/flapper in it. Still, I am lost:

- my previous BMW pipes were always dry and gray; would the fuel/air mixture be too rich in the 528ix?
- has anyone with a similar problem had their tail pipe(s) replaced on warranty, and are the currently made BMW black-chrome pipes more corrosion-resistant?
Hello?!!

Anyone, please? Before I go complaining to my dealer
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It appears that you've been dealing with this for over a month. You have a warranty, so take it in and have them replaced
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Yep - just wanted somebody (the OP, perhaps?) to confirm that the replacement OEM tips are of better quality now. I still have lots of time on warranty; no need to replace them every year or so
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