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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 08-15-2004, 02:32 PM
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Post What is ZHP? ZPP? ZSP? ZCW?

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Old 08-15-2004, 03:07 PM
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Old 08-15-2004, 04:37 PM
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Actually, I would attribute the improvement in braking and handling to the use of better tires, not bigger tires. The tires that come on the perf pkg 330i are lightyears better than the bargain basement Conti's that arrive on the SP 330i.

Fair enough - I edited my original post.
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New M suspension, more "sporty" than standard sport package:
  • Firmer springs (front +6%, rear +8%)
  • Firmer shocks (Jounce: front +50%, rear +20%), (Rebound: front +35%, rear -8%)
  • Larger diameter anti-roll bars: 23.5 mm front (v. 23.0), 18.5 mm rear (v. 18.0)
  • More rigid forward bushings
  • Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs
  • -.5 degrees of camber
hasn't this been found to be false?

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Old 08-15-2004, 04:59 PM
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hasn't this been found to be false?


Perhaps - I grabbed that from some old information. Do do you have any updated/correct info?
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Old 08-15-2004, 05:13 PM
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I think HACK might have deleted all the threads concerning this question.

Certain part numbers appear to be no different between the 2 cars
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Old 08-15-2004, 05:15 PM
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I think HACK might have deleted all the threads concerning this question.

Certain part numbers appear to be no different between the 2 cars
Those parts are definitely different on my ZHP

Kris nice work
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All this will be moot when the E90 3-liter arrives.
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Those parts are definitely different on my ZHP

Kris nice work
After driving both zhp and non-zhp I agree that they are different.
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Old 08-15-2004, 09:24 PM
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Perhaps - I grabbed that from some old information. Do do you have any updated/correct info?
What's the truth on this? Does anyone know. I seriously doubt BMW would LIE about the equipment on the car, especially something so easy to prove otherwise...
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:21 AM
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Thanks for this post, I was wondering about it too. They didn't have all these codes & options back in 99. Can you get the ZHP in an automatic with the cube trim? I do more city than highway miles & need an auto.
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:59 AM
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Thanks for this post, I was wondering about it too. They didn't have all these codes & options back in 99. Can you get the ZHP in an automatic with the cube trim? I do more city than highway miles & need an auto.
The cube trim is standard and only available on a ZHP. Yes an automatic can be had in a ZHP. If you go to the BWMUSA site you should be able to configure a car and you will be able to see what options and colors are available when you order a ZHP
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:25 AM
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HACK and I compared suspension part numbers on the car I had, and found them to be no different.
What about this list of parts that was posted a few months back? Sorry I only have a word file and do not know how to upload it.

*******>********>
Component>>



Part Number- 330i Performance Package
Part Number- 330i Sport Package





Front Stabilizer Bar
31 35 1 094 556





31 35 1 094 556





Rear Stabilizer Bar


33 55 1 094 545





33 55 1 094 545 >>





Front Strut Left


31 31 2 282 459





31 31 2 282 043





Front Strut Right


31 31 2 282 460





31 31 2 282 044





Rear Shock


33 52 2 282 461





33 52 6 757 045
Front Left Control Arm
31 12 2 282 121





31 12 6 758 519





Front Right Control Arm
31 12 2 282 122
31 12 6 758 520
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Old 08-16-2004, 07:32 AM
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What about this list of parts that was posted a few months back?
Hm, so same stabilizer bars but different everything else. Interesting..
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Old 08-16-2004, 09:05 AM
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I think HACK might have deleted all the threads concerning this question.

Certain part numbers appear to be no different between the 2 cars
IIRC, it turned out that HACK was mistaken. I can't remember the explanation for what he was looking at, but it turned out that there were in fact different part numbers for the ZSP and ZHP suspension componentry. Turned out to be a tempest in a teapot, basically.
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Ah ha ! Very interesting.

So, it's indeed more than marketing.

Hmmm .....
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Old 08-16-2004, 03:43 PM
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Yes and no...

some parts were different, but nothing definitive and no indications that all the remaining parts were special.

I think lower control arms, and shocks were different.

What appeared to be the same were sways, springs.
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Old 08-17-2004, 07:58 AM
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Ah ha ! Very interesting.

So, it's indeed more than marketing.

Hmmm .....
It's been that way for several years. When BMW released the M Sport II package in March 2001, different wishbones were specified for each car, and still are. What actual difference they make is another question - a 320i with sports suspension/big wheels and an M Sport-equipped 320i drive identically to me .

I suspect the different wishbones are used to increase caster and counter the tramlining you get with vast wheels.

M Sport II-equipped cars, and that includes the various Performance Package 330s, have wishbones with a '2' in the fifth number column (e.g. 31 12 2 282 121). Within most part numbers, this '2' seems to indicate a certain level of ///M-ness.
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:10 PM
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hasn't this been found to be false?
No!


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Originally Posted by the Hack on Carmudgeons.com (bimmerevolution.com)

Okay, so it looks like Paddle.Shift and I owe a lot of people apologies...

I did a little more digging around the ETK, and I spoke with Paddle.Shift on the phone. It appears Andy_Thomas was on the right track. We dug up the PNs for 330i's again and what appears on the ETK as "sports package" shocks and springs turns out to be the same PN as M-Tech sports package shocks and springs under the 325i. We figured it out...

Basically, the Performance Package is only offered in North America, and there is no such thing as sports package shocks that's different than the standard package shocks for the 330i. At least, not in the U.S...But in Canada, when you specify sports package for the 330i, you get the M-Tech II bits. So on the ETK, it lists the M-Tech II shocks and struts as "sports suspension" pieces for the 330i, when in fact, if you buy ZSP for the 330i you get the same 043/044 shocks, while for the Performance Package package you get the M-Tech II shocks and struts (459/460 are the last 3 digits).

When we were comparing the PNs with PNs on the ETK, it MATCHES that of the 330i with "sports package", while not investigating further we concluded that the Performance Package uses the same shocks. Well, in fact it sort of does. It matches the same shocks and struts as 330i with "sports package" in CANADA, not U.S.

And when we went to explore the Performance Package springs vs. 330i springs, the spring color codes matches (there are no PNs printed on the springs). This part is still under contention and unless someone figures out how to decode BMW's cryptic color coding system and ETK spring table, I'm at my wits end as to how to compare the spring parts.

I hope this clears a few more things up. The Performance Package package DOES in fact, uses up-rated shocks and struts compared to U.S. spec 330i. We put too much faith in the ETK and it came back to bite us in the @SS. I apologize for all this fury over my mistake.

(Actually we just wanted to see how gulllible people are...)
Links related to the debate and discussion.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47473

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48070

http://forums.bimmerevolution.com/vi...9ca48622d99ceb
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[*]Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs

I believe you meant "6" inches?

Nice references - thanks! Also kudo's to your FAQ site.
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All I can say is that after just getting back to KC from a 2500 mile trip in NE, SD, WY, CO, KS and oh yeah MO...our new ZHP (And that's what I'm calling it and I don't care who thinks it's just another 330ci) was fantastic. 120/130 mph for a whole day in SD...super in the sweepers and tight curves on mountain roads and 26 mpg overall. Best Bimmer for the money EVER and it looks like some people are finally realizing that it really is a bit different. The things pretty too.

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Old 09-13-2004, 05:36 PM
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How would the ZHP run against an E36 M3? Just curious, haha.
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Old 09-13-2004, 06:33 PM
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How would the ZHP run against an E36 M3? Just curious, haha.
From what I've seen posted here and read in car magazines...they are faster and handle better. And that's an unbiased opinion, not just saying it because I have one. Although my new car has not been on a track yet, I've driven E30 and E36 M3s at driver schools and the E46 w/ZHP would be right there with both of them alhtough the E30 still just outcorners everything.

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How would the ZHP run against an E36 M3? Just curious, haha.

I have played around a few times with a E36 M3 that lives near by. Every now and then we find ourselves at the same stoplight near my home. Our cars are close enough in performance that results vary.

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I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.
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