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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 10-08-2005, 08:49 PM
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At the beggining of this thread it was stated that the Performance package has a steering ratio of 13.7:1 and none Performance package cars had a ratio of 15.4:1. the Correction is that the all 2004 and 2005 330i models, None sport, Sport, and Performance package have Steering Ratios of 13.7:1 with 3.0 turns from lock to lock. steering ratio of 15.4:1 with 3.4 turns lock to lock is for E46 models from 1999 thru 2000.

sorry to post this in an old thread but I am picky about correct specifications.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:59 PM
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At the beggining of this thread it was stated that the Performance package has a steering ratio of 13.7:1 and none Performance package cars had a ratio of 15.4:1. the Correction is that the all 2004 and 2005 330i models, None sport, Sport, and Performance package have Steering Ratios of 13.7:1 with 3.0 turns from lock to lock. steering ratio of 15.4:1 with 3.4 turns lock to lock is for E46 models from 1999 thru 2000.

sorry to post this in an old thread but I am picky about correct specifications.
What?
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:49 PM
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what? what i meant was that i was stating the correct ratios for 2004 and 2005 330 models

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Car & Driver was able to get a 0-60 time of 5.6 seconds with a 1/4 mile of 14.3 seconds @97mph from a ZHP-equipped 330i. For comparison, they got identical acceleration numbers from the Infiniti G35 coupe which has 50 more hp!
Of course I dont condone or endorse drag racing, but recnetly I was playing with a G35 from light to light and keeping out in front of him through 2nd into 3rd...and thats in an 01 sport...course maybe he didn't know how to drive
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All this will be moot when the E90 3-liter arrives.

Yeah, I felt the same way, until I spent 3 (yes three!) hours test driving two different E90's (one with sport suspension, one without) and a 2005 330Ci ZHP. (All manu-matics, strangely enough!)

Guess what? ZHP is the MAGIC suspension! While both E90's had greater acceleration than the E46, neither matched the ZHP's handling. The sport suspension on the E90 suffered from a noticable, but tolerable resonance with expansion joints on a local patch of freeway. On smooth roads, there is still a slight amount of body lean. I was surprised to find that even the E90 "sport" suspension was still a little soft for my liking. Still noticeable porpoising under smooth conditions.

Then I drove the ZHP. Even in convertible form, it held a line in both sweepers and tight turns better than the sport suspension in the E90. Yeah, there was cowl shake in the convertible, but the car still held the line better. Then, shock of shocks! No resonance on same bad patch of bad freeway!!! Even better damping than the normal suspension on the E90. My suspicion is that while BMW has made great strides matching suspensions to the new run-flats, they still haven't mastered the combination they way they have on the ZHP.

I sat on my cold hard cash for more than a year for the E90 to emerge. Today, I've decided I need to rush out and order an (E46) 330Cic with ZHP before they stop selling them!

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Old 01-12-2006, 09:55 AM
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If you have 3 kids, go w/ ZSP.

Love the ZHP, tighter, sexier, awesome, but it was too harsh for me, since I have 3 children. Even the ZSP has a firmer ride.

I just wish I had the short throw. Can this be added to ZSP?
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Old 01-12-2006, 12:26 PM
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Love the ZHP, tighter, sexier, awesome, but it was too harsh for me, since I have 3 children. Even the ZSP has a firmer ride.

I just wish I had the short throw. Can this be added to ZSP?
You can get an aftermarket SSK from a ton of aftermarket tuners. Don't know which is the best, but I know they are pretty common.
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When I'm talking to customers about the difference in performance... I always tell them its about .5 seconds... but in reality... it's not. In fact, I would say its about .1-.2 seconds... if anything at all. I would love to see a test on this. We should take two bone stock ZHPs... one manual and one with auto... and do it ourselves. Surely we could get a couple of guys here to do it.
I really want to know the answer to this question.

I have a 2005 300ci ZHP automatic. I would be willing to test it against a manual to see the difference. I live in St. Louis, if anyone has a ZHP manual and would be willing to test it against mine let me know.
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I really want to know the answer to this question.

I have a 2005 300ci ZHP automatic. I would be willing to test it against a manual to see the difference. I live in St. Louis, if anyone has a ZHP manual and would be willing to test it against mine let me know.
I've seen a lot of posts from people who are friends/drinking buds/etc with the sales reps at their dealerships (or maybe it was on fanatics, i forgot which, too much drifting). Why not do an after-hours unofficial test with a manual vs automatic ZHP and post the results? Might be easier than getting two board members in distance of each other with a third party to time it.

So far it's just Speedfreak in San Diego with the Auto and BMW330PP with the manual somewhere in SoCal. Any other matches?
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I got a 14.7 out of my 2002 330Ci. I think if i had the short throw I might be hitting a 14.5-6

Makes me feel better about my vanilla 330Ci that there isn't too much difference in the 1/4

Glad I didn't go for the G35, I would have wanted to throw the interior out the window after 6 months it's so ugly and cheap.

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Car & Driver was able to get a 0-60 time of 5.6 seconds with a 1/4 mile of 14.3 seconds @97mph from a ZHP-equipped 330i. For comparison, they got identical acceleration numbers from the Infiniti G35 coupe which has 50 more hp!
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What Package does this car have?



It comes with one of those "Sprockets" dudes seen on SNL?

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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When were these packages introduced? I have a 00 328i and have no idea what packages it has

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When were these packages introduced? I have a 00 328i and have no idea what packages it has

Orient Blue Metallic paint
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BMW has always had a Sport Package (ZSP) and a Premium Package (ZPP). The Performace Package (ZHP) was introduced mid-MY2003. Your car appears not have any packages installed. With Premium Package you get leather seats. With the Sport Package you get sport seats, sport suspension, and 17" package specific wheels.
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A package that's unfortuantely unavailable in the ol' U S of A.
Does anyone know of an aftermarket bumper styled in this fashion? I would like something with a little more flare, but nothing eccentric.
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:26 AM
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Does anyone know of an aftermarket bumper styled in this fashion? I would like something with a little more flare, but nothing eccentric.
The car in the picture is a 3 series with Sports package (as can be seen by the wheels). It definitely has leather (since the interior is grey and they don't make grey leatherette). It also has an upgraded M-tech II bumper (same as what is found on the OEM ZHP package).
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Actually, the car looks more like a ZHP with Sport Package rims. The standard 330i with ZSP has chrome lining of the windows. Only the 325i and 330i ZHP have black trim around the outsides of the windows I believe. The front fascia and rear spoiler are definitely in the ZHP mold.
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Actually, the car looks more like a ZHP with Sport Package rims. The standard 330i with ZSP has chrome lining of the windows. Only the 325i and 330i ZHP have black trim around the outsides of the windows I believe. The front fascia and rear spoiler are definitely in the ZHP mold.
I'm not so sure about that. The side skirting is not like mine. Mine flares out at the very bottom. I agree with Ice
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Old 04-03-2006, 06:15 AM
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Actually, the car looks more like a ZHP with Sport Package rims. The standard 330i with ZSP has chrome lining of the windows. Only the 325i and 330i ZHP have black trim around the outsides of the windows I believe. The front fascia and rear spoiler are definitely in the ZHP mold.
Question about the car was answered earlier in the thread. The original poster was from South Africa. The car has an M (II) Sport Package. The ZHP package was only available in the US and Canadian market.

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The packages being describe in this thread only apply to the BMW North America distributor's market. The 318i is not available in the North American (US/Canada). Your car was actually available in Mexico and marketed there as the Formula 1 package, though IIRC in other markets is was called the M Sport package. See snapshot of the BMW Mexico website with a 320i Formula 1 car.

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I'm not so sure about that. The side skirting is not like mine. Mine flares out at the very bottom. I agree with Ice
Coupes and sedans have different side panels. It's still the Mtech II kit.
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Coupes and sedans have different side panels. It's still the Mtech II kit.
Hmm... we live, we learn
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Sorry, one more question and I didnt want to start another thread.

What is the difference in ride height between the stock 325i and the 330 PP? I read up front that it lowers 0.6" from the older sport package, but is that the same drop from the stock 325i? Is it also the same drop from front to rear?

Anyone know of aftermarket spring sets that would put my stock 325i close to that ride height without hurting the ride too much?
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I've had bad luck with after market Springs. It just doesn't give the feel of stock springs. If you put bad after market springs, you'll have a bumpy ride. I've got a stock 330ci with 19inch rims. It's not lowered. Look
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While I am already grabbing my ankles in anticipation of the flaming I'm about to get, I have to ask, 'cause its killing me - is there something in the door plate, etc that identifies the package?? Long story short, I knew I wanted the BMW the second my foot went down, but I didn't have time to get into the culture before I had a deal I couldn't pass up, so the question of package never came up. It seems like I have some elements of the sport package, but not sure if they were ordered separately. Thx
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