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Old 08-16-2004, 11:20 AM
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Does anybody have a pic of the electrical connectors in a 2.8 (or M) engine bay?

Fellow bf.c'ers who have followed my saga know that my M50 manifold problem is sorted out, but the tech who found the problem and installed the new, «real» 2.5 manifold forgot to label the electrical connectors, so he lost track of one of them.... ... needless to say, the engine codes like crazy (TPS codes, etc...).

I searched for a pic detailing which connector goes where, but didn't find any. More specifically, the connector in front of the engine now misses its female (I think) counterpart. This is the LAST thing to do on it... HELP!!!

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Old 08-16-2004, 11:55 AM
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I'll go look at my 99...
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:05 PM
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Thanks a lot Randy...

I do think that the connector directly at the front of the fuel rail connects to that square box with two hoses on it (one hose has a blue stripe and the other a white stripe I think).

But this is off the top of my head...

I'm pretty pissed...
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:26 PM
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Thanks a lot Randy...

I do think that the connector directly at the front of the fuel rail connects to that square box with two hoses on it (one hose has a blue stripe and the other a white stripe I think).

But this is off the top of my head...

I'm pretty pissed...
You are correct. At least that is what that connector plugs into on my 01/99 M Rdstr.

Now I need to go back and put my fuel rail cover back on (after I make sure I didn't pull off the tube going under the manifold towards the rear of the car while I was trying to get the part number...).

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Old 08-16-2004, 12:29 PM
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So the one that goes between the first two intake manifold runners. Where does it plug in? Next to the IAC valve?
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:52 PM
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So the one that goes between the first two intake manifold runners. Where does it plug in? Next to the IAC valve?
The plug coming out of the fuel rail electrical trough connects to the electric valve (item 5 in the ETK diagram).

Do you already have that electric valve connected to something? Perhaps that is where the problem is (wrong connector on the valve)?
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:01 PM
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I wish I knew, it's not in front of me, but I sent the pic to the shop, thanks a lot.
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Old 08-16-2004, 03:32 PM
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Thats the same thing I described to you on BFC. There is another connector in that area so be sure he doesn't cross connect!
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:11 PM
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... needless to say, the engine codes like crazy (TPS codes, etc...).

Uhm, Yeah. I see there's a problem with your TPS Reporting. Hmmmm. I'm going to have to ask you to stay and work on it over the weekend.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:33 PM
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Thats the same thing I described to you on BFC. There is another connector in that area so be sure he doesn't cross connect!
At the motor mill, steps were taken (connector wise) so that didn't happen. I assume that BMW does the same.
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I ran into the same thing doing my aborted M50 swap. Contrary to the industry standard Ron mentions, BMW didn't idiot proof the connectors. There are two that are exactly alike. I only figured out the difference by looking at the length of the wires. At this point, I can't remember which two connectors were the same but I do remember it was up under the manifold and *very* difficult to reach with the thing in place. Doable but difficult. You'll look like you have been fighting with a rabid cat when you get done finding it and swapping the plug in.
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:13 AM
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I ran into the same thing doing my aborted M50 swap. Contrary to the industry standard Ron mentions, BMW didn't idiot proof the connectors. There are two that are exactly alike. I only figured out the difference by looking at the length of the wires. At this point, I can't remember which two connectors were the same but I do remember it was up under the manifold and *very* difficult to reach with the thing in place. Doable but difficult. You'll look like you have been fighting with a rabid cat when you get done finding it and swapping the plug in.
Yeah, I recall that I had to drill a notch in the M50 to allow the 2 wires to connect, but I also know that when you let the other wire fall down in the engine bay, it was a royal pain to retrieve it.

So now my car sits at the shop, who are buried with work, and I'm driving my Toyota after being Z3-less for all of summer.

I swear I'll kill someone...
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