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Old 04-27-2013, 09:41 AM
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Hello everyone,

I bought a 2009 335i xdrive about 4 months ago.

Since I brought it home I have had nothing but problems. The right strut was leaking fluid and has been replaced, a few weeks later the water pump went on it, alignment issues, xdrive stopped working a couple months ago and the vehicle became two wheel drive until I got that fixed, and last week my wife gets into the car and its shaking violently. We got it towed to the dealership (for the third time) and it turns out the fuel injectors are pooched (3,000). They also recommended that I replace the spark plugs. Also, I just recently put on new summer tires and the guy at bmw adjusted the tire pressure because the flat symbol was on the dash. The light turned off but has since came back on..needless to say I'm at the end of my rope with this car.

Worrying that my car is going to break down on a regular basis really has taken the excitement out of owning my first bmw.

So I guess my question is, do you guys recommend keeping this vehicle because it has many new components or did I get a "lemon" that I should get rid of ASAP?

Thank you for your input.
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:41 AM
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Only new cars can be lemons, you seem to have just bought a badly taken care of used car, which is a risk that comes with the cheap price.

Regardless of how many things has been fixed, if you don't *Feel* comfortable with the car since it's given you so much problems, it's probably better to sell it while it is still working well and get something else. It might work fine for the next 20k miles, but DURING that time, it's not worth the feeling of you or your wife getting in the car everyday thinking "oh shoot, i hope nothing breaks down today".

Get a new 335 and take care of it from the start. If it still gives you this much problems, the factory will deem it a real lemon and give you a brand new spanking car (well, technically they buy your car back and you buy a new one with it...)
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:05 AM
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So I guess my question is, do you guys recommend keeping this vehicle because it has many new components or did I get a "lemon" that I should get rid of ASAP?

You've invested....what proportion of the purchase price in this ride?

Hey, you fixed what the prev owner got rid of....should be good. Why get out now, losing all?
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:07 AM
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You've invested....what proportion of the purchase price in this ride?

Hey, you fixed what the prev owner got rid of....should be good. Why get out now, losing all?
I payed 36k. I think that's what you were asking..
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:41 AM
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How many miles does car have? Did you look at service history? Was the car serviced regularly before you bought it?
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:03 PM
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How many miles does car have? Did you look at service history? Was the car serviced regularly before you bought it?
The car has 65k on it... I bought it from a bmw dealership and it came with a certified warranty so I just assumed they would only certify it if it was in good condition. I guess the "300 point inspection" had a few oversights.

I think whoever owned this car before me treated it like crap. My guess is that it was a lease return..
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The car has 65k on it... I bought it from a bmw dealership and it came with a certified warranty so I just assumed they would only certify it if it was in good condition. I guess the "300 point inspection" had a few oversights.

I think whoever owned this car before me treated it like crap. My guess is that it was a lease return..

CPO? Did it cover this stuff?
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The car has 65k on it... I bought it from a bmw dealership and it came with a certified warranty so I just assumed they would only certify it if it was in good condition. I guess the "300 point inspection" had a few oversights.

I think whoever owned this car before me treated it like crap. My guess is that it was a lease return..

BTW you're due for a walnut shell blast - your engine young again! Misfire no more. NOT covered by warranty as is routine maint for N54/55.
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:13 PM
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BTW you're due for a walnut shell blast - your engine young again! Misfire no more. NOT covered by warranty as is routine maint for N54/55.
Yep, all the issues have been covered. With the exception of the spark plugs. Walnut blast?

Not sure what n54/55 is referring to..
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:32 PM
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Engine parts get cleaned with walnut shell blasting. It removes built up deposits. Similar to media blasting I think.

I'm buying a 335i w/56K miles. How much does walnut blasting cost??
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:35 PM
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Yep, all the issues have been covered. With the exception of the spark plugs. Walnut blast?

Not sure what n54/55 is referring to..

You are new.

[Walnut shell blast]

N54 is the twin turbo 335i - discontinued except 335is, what, 2011?
N55 is the single turbo dual action 335i - currently sold


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Old 04-27-2013, 05:28 PM
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Engine parts get cleaned with walnut shell blasting. It removes built up deposits. Similar to media blasting I think.

I'm buying a 335i w/56K miles. How much does walnut blasting cost??
You guys are likely scaring the uninformed peeps. The blasting has to do with carbon build up in the intake manifold tract and intake ports on the cylinder head on the N54. It has been said to be from vaporized oil from the EGR system feeding into the intake tract andcondensing there. A few have added a catch can in between the EGR and the intake and others have commented it doesn't do anything. Haven't heard it to be prevalent with the naturally aspirated 328 engine (don't know its engine code). I have the diesel which is a wholly different beast but have heard of a few Ds that are getting carbon in intake as well.

I still would like to see if a catch can can be used on the M57 diesel
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You guys are likely scaring the uninformed peeps. The blasting has to do with carbon build up in the intake manifold tract and intake ports on the cylinder head on the N54. It has been said to be from vaporized oil from the EGR system feeding into the intake tract andcondensing there. A few have added a catch can in between the EGR and the intake and others have commented it doesn't do anything. Haven't heard it to be prevalent with the naturally aspirated 328 engine (don't know its engine code). I have the diesel which is a wholly different beast but have heard of a few Ds that are getting carbon in intake as well.

I still would like to see if a catch can can be used on the M57 diesel

Be afraid OP....be very afraid....of directly injected engines, and that would include a great proportion of late model cars.

Google away for explanation....pretty straightforward. Dealer might charge $600 for a blastin', or you can follow the DIY procedure in my link above, as will I when the day arrives. Have already invested $50 for BMW parts.

Or get a 6 cyl 328i - not having direct injection, they don't have the issue. Directly injected diesels are now around....yup. Superduty.


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Old 04-29-2013, 01:52 AM
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Hello everyone,

I bought a 2009 335i xdrive about 4 months ago.

Since I brought it home I have had nothing but problems. The right strut was leaking fluid and has been replaced, a few weeks later the water pump went on it, alignment issues, xdrive stopped working a couple months ago and the vehicle became two wheel drive until I got that fixed, and last week my wife gets into the car and its shaking violently. We got it towed to the dealership (for the third time) and it turns out the fuel injectors are pooched (3,000). They also recommended that I replace the spark plugs. Also, I just recently put on new summer tires and the guy at bmw adjusted the tire pressure because the flat symbol was on the dash. The light turned off but has since came back on..needless to say I'm at the end of my rope with this car.

Worrying that my car is going to break down on a regular basis really has taken the excitement out of owning my first bmw.

So I guess my question is, do you guys recommend keeping this vehicle because it has many new components or did I get a "lemon" that I should get rid of ASAP?

Thank you for your input.

Sounds semi normal. Lots and lots of 335i owners found that walnut blasting is what they really needed, many only after spending thousands on other dealer recommended fixes.

For an older BMW I'd stay away from x-drive, i drive, twin turbo engine etc unless you are willing to DIY or take the risk on repairs. Dealerships are really not the place to take out of warranty cars, find a local BMW specialist who sees far more higher mileage vehicles.

Water pump failure is very common, normally around 80K miles (ish)
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:38 AM
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Hello everyone,

I bought a 2009 335i xdrive about 4 months ago.

Since I brought it home I have had nothing but problems. The right strut was leaking fluid and has been replaced, a few weeks later the water pump went on it, alignment issues, xdrive stopped working a couple months ago and the vehicle became two wheel drive until I got that fixed, and last week my wife gets into the car and its shaking violently. We got it towed to the dealership (for the third time) and it turns out the fuel injectors are pooched (3,000). They also recommended that I replace the spark plugs. Also, I just recently put on new summer tires and the guy at bmw adjusted the tire pressure because the flat symbol was on the dash. The light turned off but has since came back on..needless to say I'm at the end of my rope with this car.

Worrying that my car is going to break down on a regular basis really has taken the excitement out of owning my first bmw.

So I guess my question is, do you guys recommend keeping this vehicle because it has many new components or did I get a "lemon" that I should get rid of ASAP?

Thank you for your input.
How/why did you pay $36k for a 2009? Whats the mileage on it?
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