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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 05-01-2013, 05:07 PM
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E70 X5 35i Performace package

Does it effect the gas mileage? My guess is yes.

What do you think M sport performace package owners?
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:33 PM
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If the HP and torque is increased (I recall you bump it by 8%) then yes, it will use more fuel. Not a lot more, and depends MOSTLY on how it is driven.

The real question is, is it worth it?

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Old 05-01-2013, 07:29 PM
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you only get 16 hp for 1600$
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:11 PM
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you only get 16 hp for 1600$
That's what they say you get, based on dyno's of the other models N55 M Performance kits, it's more then that.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820804

Like Ard said, mileage it all dependent on how much you get into it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:50 PM
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At $100 per hp, that makes Dinan look like a bargain....which I thought was impossible.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:39 PM
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I drove regular 35i and it was pretty strong. I did drive x50i and loved it but people here complain a lot of its gas mileage.

I m not fuel saver type of guy but at the same time, would hate to see mileage in low teens.

I paid more attention to suspension etc and got m sport package and passed on performance package.


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Old 05-02-2013, 08:17 AM
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The M Performance exhaust is worth the $1600 alone, but who knows if they've straightened that out at the factory yet. I had to get mine put on at the dealer after the fact. I've had a 50i M Sport as a loaner so had the opportunity to drive them back to back and I prefer the 35i M Performance. The base 50i didn't really feel that much stronger but the weight difference was noticeable. It is stronger, don't get me wrong, but if you go M Performance or Dinan with the 50i, it becomes a beast. Once you start optioning them out the price difference between the models becomes negligible, so it depends on what you want.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:51 AM
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I would love to hear the m performance exhaust !!!
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:02 AM
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I only have a small clip at idle, one of these days I'll need to do a video of a cold start and of it under load.

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Old 05-02-2013, 11:06 AM
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could not tell much! anything with some RPM"S
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:40 PM
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Honestly I couldn't tell difference between regular and performance 35i exhaust. Yes there was obvious difference between 35 and 50i exhausts but I found 50i exhaust too loud and not refined.....just my opinion.

35i sounded and felt more balanced to me.


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Old 05-09-2013, 09:30 AM
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Honestly I couldn't tell difference between regular and performance 35i exhaust. Yes there was obvious difference between 35 and 50i exhausts but I found 50i exhaust too loud and not refined.....just my opinion.

35i sounded and felt more balanced to me.
There's a night and day difference between the M Sport and the M Performance exhaust, I'd be very surprised if the vehicle you thought had the M Performance exhaust actually had it, if you couldn't tell the difference.

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could not tell much! anything with some RPM"S
Here's two I did this morning, first is a cold start and the second is giving it some revs after I had it out and warmed up, had the phone too close and the exhaust blew it over.



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Old 05-09-2013, 11:11 AM
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Old 05-09-2013, 01:34 PM
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Old 05-11-2013, 04:16 PM
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What is the Part Number for the exhaust!! I cannot find it
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:57 PM
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It's part number 18302166934.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:23 PM
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That's what they say you get, based on dyno's of the other models N55 M Performance kits, it's more then that.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820804

Like Ard said, mileage it all dependent on how much you get into it.
That is some impressive number from the boost. Then again the standard engine runs larger than the quoted specification anyways. As for the fuel economy, the EPA rating has to reflect the model including the M performance kits. So I don't think it make too much a dent unless you drive like you are on the track all the time.

I have been flamed before for quoting EPA. Like all things, your mileage will vary. The EPA rating is surprising detail in their testing methodology.

I would not personally spend $1.6k for the upgrade.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:51 PM
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I have'nt read anybody mentioning turbo's is this stock for an X5
i have 2012 w/M sport package X5 35i xdrive w/twin turbo and alot of extra's
3rd row seat, entertainment system, ect
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:14 AM
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I have'nt read anybody mentioning turbo's is this stock for an X5
i have 2012 w/M sport package X5 35i xdrive w/twin turbo and alot of extra's
3rd row seat, entertainment system, ect
WHAT??
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:30 AM
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There's a night and day difference between the M Sport and the M Performance exhaust, I'd be very surprised if the vehicle you thought had the M Performance exhaust actually had it, if you couldn't tell the difference.



Here's two I did this morning, first is a cold start and the second is giving it some revs after I had it out and warmed up, had the phone too close and the exhaust blew it over.




So does the M-Sport with the M Performance tune include the exhaust or am I misunderstanding? My X has the M Performance software tune, but I'm not sure whether it has the exhaust or not as I have no reference to compare it to.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:58 PM
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So does the M-Sport with the M Performance tune include the exhaust or am I misunderstanding? My X has the M Performance software tune, but I'm not sure whether it has the exhaust or not as I have no reference to compare it to.
My best answer is I don't know how they're currently coming out of the factory. When I originally ordered the M Performance Package (ZMX) was stated to include the pedals, black chrome exhaust tips and the tune. Mine was missing the accelerator pedal and the black chrome exhaust tips from the factory. They retrofitted the pedal but there was no real clear answer to what exhaust it was supposed to have. On the 50i it has a completely different exhaust part number for the ZMX package then the one for just ZMP and the ZMX part number has the black chrome tips. On the 35i the only exhaust that has black chrome tips in the M Performance exhaust, so that's what we had retrofitted.
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Old 06-24-2013, 06:30 PM
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My best answer is I don't know how they're currently coming out of the factory. When I originally ordered the M Performance Package (ZMX) was stated to include the pedals, black chrome exhaust tips and the tune. Mine was missing the accelerator pedal and the black chrome exhaust tips from the factory. They retrofitted the pedal but there was no real clear answer to what exhaust it was supposed to have. On the 50i it has a completely different exhaust part number for the ZMX package then the one for just ZMP and the ZMX part number has the black chrome tips. On the 35i the only exhaust that has black chrome tips in the M Performance exhaust, so that's what we had retrofitted.
Thanks for the reply. It looks like you may have lucked out. I'll just have to get under my X and see if there are any identifying characteristics on the exhaust.
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Old 06-24-2013, 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the reply. It looks like you may have lucked out. I'll just have to get under my X and see if there are any identifying characteristics on the exhaust.
It certainly wasn't a quick process getting everything rectified, no one wants to believe that the factory didn't install the correct parts. It took about a month to get everything rolling.

If you have the black chrome tips, you have the M Performance exhaust, if you have the regular chrome ones, you have the M Sport exhaust. The M Performance exhaust doesn't have the exhaust flapper, so you get flow from both sides all the time. Where the regular M Sport only has flow from the drivers side at idle and low rpm.
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