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Old 05-06-2013, 08:52 AM
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Got a 3 yr lease on my 2013 328i.
Lease documents states that I have to return car with 1/8" tread on tires.
It comes with stock Continental ContiProContact SSR RunFlat 225/45 R 17 91H

I'm wondering if these tires will last 30,000 miles under normal city driving.
Pls tell me if there's a good chance that it will last that long over the 3 yrs.

If not, One option I'm considering is to replace them with reg tires, buy a inflation kit, & then put back these orig RFT before returning the car.

Just saw this sale at Sears:
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Goodyear Eagle GT - 225/45ZR17 94W XL BSW - All Season Tire for $137 each.
Buy 3, get 1 free: promo code B3G1TIRE
an additional 10% off with promo code SAVENOW
Brings it down to $370, plus tax
Plus, $40 mail in rebate:
http://c.sears.com/ue/home/NPP1RdmpF...0050830x000545

Think these ZR GY Eagles handling capabilities are at least equal, if not better than stock.
I figure for under $400, & a few bucks more later to put orig tires back on, it's worth maybe saving over $1000 later if I return & replace the orig Conti's RFT back to the dealer at lease end.

So, pls give me your opinions about this tire strategy for leasing purposes. Pls do not make this a RFT vs. non-RFT thread.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:45 AM
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Got a 3 yr lease on my 2013 328i.
Lease documents states that I have to return car with 1/8" tread on tires.
It comes with stock Continental ContiProContact SSR RunFlat 225/45 R 17 91H
They're not high performance summer tires; should last 30K miles.

RFT tires wear no worse than go-flat. It's SUMMER performance rubber that doesn't last.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:19 AM
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Got a 3 yr lease on my 2013 328i.
Lease documents states that I have to return car with 1/8" tread on tires.
It comes with stock Continental ContiProContact SSR RunFlat 225/45 R 17 91H

I'm wondering if these tires will last 30,000 miles under normal city driving.
Pls tell me if there's a good chance that it will last that long over the 3 yrs.

If not, One option I'm considering is to replace them with reg tires, buy a inflation kit, & then put back these orig RFT before returning the car.

Just saw this sale at Sears:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_09587054000P
Goodyear Eagle GT - 225/45ZR17 94W XL BSW - All Season Tire for $137 each.
Buy 3, get 1 free: promo code B3G1TIRE
an additional 10% off with promo code SAVENOW
Brings it down to $370, plus tax
Plus, $40 mail in rebate:
http://c.sears.com/ue/home/NPP1RdmpF...0050830x000545

Think these ZR GY Eagles handling capabilities are at least equal, if not better than stock.
I figure for under $400, & a few bucks more later to put orig tires back on, it's worth maybe saving over $1000 later if I return & replace the orig Conti's RFT back to the dealer at lease end.

So, pls give me your opinions about this tire strategy for leasing purposes. Pls do not make this a RFT vs. non-RFT thread.
Thanks,
How many miles do you anticipate driving during your lease term?
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:26 AM
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did they tell you how many dings and paint chips you were allowed too?
at 1/8 inch tread depth I dont believe I would be driving on them anyway, but it would suck if you had to get new tires and one month later turn the car in.
Might be worth asking how much in cash you would have to pay them if you turned it in on slick tires
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I'm wondering if these tires will last 30,000 miles under normal city driving.
Pls tell me if there's a good chance that it will last that long over the 3 yrs.
Nick,

Just a datapoint:

Running here in Houston, in essentially the same car as you, (328i E93 - with same tires), primarily city driving, I am still on my original tires at 3.5 years ownership/27K. I've had some wear on my right front, enough that I'll be replacing the tires before the year is out.

Rear tires have done very well, still have significant tread.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:38 PM
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Nick,

Just a datapoint:

Running here in Houston, in essentially the same car as you, (328i E93 - with same tires), primarily city driving, I am still on my original tires at 3.5 years ownership/27K. I've had some wear on my right front, enough that I'll be replacing the tires before the year is out.

Rear tires have done very well, still have significant tread.
Kat:
Thanks for your input.
Good to know that it lasts that long.
But I have blown out 2 tires on my Corvettes driving on these crappy Houston streets.
Conservatively, I might be a little more heavy footed around the corners, so may not make it quite to 30,000 miles then.

Tire Rack has these orginals at $209 each. Think the dealership will charge much more than that, plus other mounting fees.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....r=Base%20Model
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I have wheel and tire insurance, and when I had a bubble on my front tire ( the same size tire as the OP's the dealers invoice indicated $350.00 for a new tire, mount and balance.


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Kat:
Conservatively, I might be a little more heavy footed around the corners, so may not make it quite to 30,000 miles then.
I tend to be a little bit heavy footed on an abundance of left-handed turns on my morning commute, which would probably explain my right front tire wear.

I know what you mean about some of the streets here in Houston. Some are pristine, others are a cross between sink-holes and bomb testing sites. When I venture out beyond my daily 5 miles radius, I will drive 20 minutes out of the way to avoid 3/4 miles of ruts, tree roots, steel plates covering sink holes and the veritable mountains of asphalt slapped over chipped out concrete.
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I lease as well, dump suck flats put on reel tires and put the sucks back on when you return the car. You will be a happy camper
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Kat:
Thanks for your input.
Good to know that it lasts that long.
But I have blown out 2 tires on my Corvettes driving on these crappy Houston streets.
Conservatively, I might be a little more heavy footed around the corners, so may not make it quite to 30,000 miles then.

Tire Rack has these orginals at $209 each. Think the dealership will charge much more than that, plus other mounting fees.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....r=Base%20Model
Remember that your BMW warranty allows for an alignment under warranty for the 1st 2,000 miles although it's difficult to imagine how the dealership would "permit" this unless you were complaining of "pulling" as it would be too early for the tires to be showing any wear.

Even original equipment tires may "pull." Could be the tires, or the alignment from the factory. Don't hesitate to complain within the "narrow" warranty window.

Just make sure your car is "tracking" perfectly...no hint of pulling, and the steering wheel is not "cocked" (off center) as you are driving straight down the road.

My last two (new) cars had tire vibrations from the start. This doesn't necessarily indicate an alignment condition...more of a poor balance condition from the factory (RFs seem to have an inherent problem due to their MASS).
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Tire Rack has these orginals at $209 each. Think the dealership will charge much more than that, plus other mounting fees...
Do NOT use the dealer. I just saw a post (on some forum; might have been BMWCCA) where the dealer cost for a $200 tire (including mounting/balancing) was over $400.

Frankly, your least-expensive is to run the tires until they are done, or until you have to turn the car in. Replace them then. You don't have sport package or 18"/19" rims so the ride will be fine; you don't need or want go-flats and the associated worry, and cost of a spare.
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Do NOT use the dealer. I just saw a post (on some forum; might have been BMWCCA) where the dealer cost for a $200 tire (including mounting/balancing) was over $400.

Frankly, your least-expensive is to run the tires until they are done, or until you have to turn the car in. Replace them then. You don't have sport package or 18"/19" rims so the ride will be fine; you don't need or want go-flats and the associated worry, and cost of a spare.
There are plenty of options without getting a spare. Part of having the ultimate driving machine is having tires that don't make the car feel like a truck.
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Do NOT use the dealer. I just saw a post (on some forum; might have been BMWCCA) where the dealer cost for a $200 tire (including mounting/balancing) was over $400.

Frankly, your least-expensive is to run the tires until they are done, or until you have to turn the car in. Replace them then. You don't have sport package or 18"/19" rims so the ride will be fine; you don't need or want go-flats and the associated worry, and cost of a spare.
I've been researching lease turn-in tire costs, when you 'buy' the tires at the dealership, and I keep coming up with $200 - 250...but nothing is mentioned about "mounting and balancing" costs. I doubt that they apply.

Having researched this over the years I'm inclined to think that the lease turn-in tire costs might actually be a good deal vs. buying new tires (BMW wants "approved tires"), and the costs of mounting and balancing. This issue can certainly be sorted out by contacting the dealership and asking them how much tires would cost in a lease turn-in situation.

Of course, there are always "exceptions" to the rule, depending on dealership...or if you are about to buy another car from them.
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Thanks for all your comments.

I'm now leaning towards replacing orig stock RTF tires now. Drive the heck out of them for 20,000 miles. Then put the orig stock tires back on to drive the last 10,000 before returning car at lease end.

So, for around $500, or cost of one month lease payment, I can flog the car like crazy, all under warranty & really enjoy driving this 3 series. I hate to be the next owner, even w/ CPO...

Good idea? OK idea? or Stupid idea?

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Thanks for all your comments.

I'm now leaning towards replacing orig stock RTF tires now. Drive the heck out of them for 20,000 miles. Then put the orig stock tires back on to drive the last 10,000 before returning car at lease end.

So, for around $500, or cost of one month lease payment, I can flog the car like crazy, all under warranty & really enjoy driving this 3 series. I hate to be the next owner, even w/ CPO...

Good idea? OK idea? or Stupid idea?
It depends if you want to spend the next three years with a car that rides like a truck and every time you hit a bump in the road your jaw will break or enjoy the car the way it should be. There are plenty of threads on this topic, do a search and you can come up with your own decision.
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Nick,

Just a datapoint:

Running here in Houston, in essentially the same car as you, (328i E93 - with same tires), primarily city driving, I am still on my original tires at 3.5 years ownership/27K. I've had some wear on my right front, enough that I'll be replacing the tires before the year is out.

Rear tires have done very well, still have significant tread.


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Well, just ordered those 4 tires.
Called Sears 800#, since it was sold out online & at all local Sears stores in the Houston area. But they can ship them into my closest Sears automotive store by tomorrow, & install by wkend. Rep even dropped price from $137 to $123.
Here's the breakdown:

Item: 09587054
Quant: 4
Price each: $123.99
Total: $495.96
90 Day Balance, $11.99 x4 = $47.96
Promotional Code: 26220, 28290
Discount Applied: ($163.99)
Sales Tax: $27.76
Total: $407.69

Since I didn't need lifetime balancing, just used $12 balancing instead of $16 lifetime balancing
I'm replacing brand new orig factory Conti RFT & putting back on before lease end, so they're re-using orig valve stems, so no charge for valve stems
Got the Buy 3, get 1 free: promo code B3G1TIRE
Bot the $40 off $350 purchase, promo code: 40AUT350

So for $407, for GY Eagles ZR's, + $40 mail in rebate, figured it's cheap insurance/fun for next 20,000 miles...

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Why not drive the factory tires until they go bad. Then buy and replace with RFTs? There is nothing that requires you to buy the MFG tires. It just has to be similar tires (rft)
How much are replacement RFT tires?
Plus mounting, balancing, stem & other fees?
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Well, just installed the GoodYear Eagles ZR at Sears over the wkend. Bought a can of Fix a Flat, TMPS safe, for $7.
Drove the heck out of it all wkend.
My observations:

Handles great. Took all corners with confidence.
Much quieter than stock RFT.
Rides much better, softer, & comfortable, not as jarring/harsh as RFT.

Very well worth it for $407 !!!

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