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Old 05-06-2013, 04:48 PM
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Everyone,

My wife's 2005 x3 is leaking a little bit of oil from the left side of the engine, just below the black plastic part. I am attaching some pictures for you to see.

Any ideas of what it could be?

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Old 05-06-2013, 06:09 PM
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Looks like a classic valve cover gasket failure - although in many cases the leak is more toward the back.

Should be about a $350 job at an independent shop, but more if related things are due like spark plugs, and an oil change.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:12 PM
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That's what I was thinking. I saw a video on how to replace it. Looks to be something I can do. I can also get the spark plugs.

Any suggestion on what brand parts??


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Old 05-06-2013, 06:12 PM
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Can you pull the vanity cover off or get an inspection mirror in there while its running?

I bet a beer that Supercourse is right.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:39 PM
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Any suggestion on what brand parts??
NGK BKR6EQUP plugs for your '05.

Victor Reinz gasket set or similar Made in Germany.
All gasket sets come with 6 spark plug hole grommets, but not all come with the new seals for the valve cover bolt holes.
You may have to buy (13 of them?) separately, and that can add up to nearly the price of the gasket kit unless you find a deal.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:47 PM
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Thanks so much for the help fellas.


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Old 05-06-2013, 07:30 PM
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NGK BKR6EQUP plugs for your '05.

Victor Reinz gasket set or similar Made in Germany.
All gasket sets come with 6 spark plug hole grommets, but not all come with the new seals for the valve cover bolt holes.
You may have to buy (13 of them?) separately, and that can add up to nearly the price of the gasket kit unless you find a deal.
I would really recommend a genuine BMW gasket set. There have been some reports of premature failure of the aftermarket gasket sets (oil leaks at fairly low mileage).

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Old 05-07-2013, 12:27 AM
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These things don't require valve adjustments right? Valve cover off would be a good time if it did though.
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Old 05-07-2013, 05:09 AM
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These things don't require valve adjustments right? Valve cover off would be a good time if it did though.
The OP's vehicle has the M54 engine. This engine has hydraulic valve lifters, and needs no periodic adjustment.

Many people replace the spark plugs at the same time they are replacing the VC gaskets. A lot of the labor is the same for these two replacements.

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I would definitely stick with Genuine BMW parts for the VCG.
Victor Reinz are prone to leaking again after a few thousand miles.

BMW gasket is only 42.00.

http://www.getbmwparts.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:22 PM
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Make absolutely sure when doing this to use sealant at the hard corners of the half moons, and do NOT overtighten the bolts, or out of order. Overtightened VCG bolts are a sure-fire way to get the gaskets to leak.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:54 PM
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I just got back from the dealer, they replaced the valve cover gasket. I expected it to be covered under my CPO (which expires next week, which is why I wanted it done right away.) So I expected to pay a $50 CPO deductible.

But it turns out it was covered under the BMW 7/70 emissions warranty. my SA said valve cover gasket is considered an emissions item. Warranty work with 0 deductible. Good news for me.

So does your wife's car happen to have less than 7 years or 70,000 miles? You might just luck out here!
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:03 PM
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Oil leak

Nope! She's got an '05 with 95k. Thanks for the heads up man!


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Old 05-14-2013, 04:12 PM
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Oil leak

I changed out the valve gasket this weekend. Pretty easy job, but took a little time (3 hours). Yes, I used the gasket sealant and made sure put it back on correctly.

Glad I saved the money!


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Old 05-14-2013, 05:13 PM
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Re: Oil leak

Whoo hoo. Good fix=winning!

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Old 05-14-2013, 05:46 PM
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I just got back from the dealer, they replaced the valve cover gasket. I expected it to be covered under my CPO (which expires next week, which is why I wanted it done right away.) So I expected to pay a $50 CPO deductible.

But it turns out it was covered under the BMW 7/70 emissions warranty. my SA said valve cover gasket is considered an emissions item. Warranty work with 0 deductible. Good news for me.

So does your wife's car happen to have less than 7 years or 70,000 miles? You might just luck out here!
Hi thanks for your post. I have the same valve cover gasket leak problem on my 2007 X3 though it is not quite severe now. I made several calls to different dealers. But they all denied it is covered under the emissions warranty. I'm just wondering is it because the policy is different in CA? I actually called BMWNA they told me the federal emissions control warranty is 80K or 8 years but they refer me to contact dealer to see if the valve cover gasket problem is indeed covered under the emissions warranty.

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Old 05-14-2013, 09:49 PM
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Hi thanks for your post. I have the same valve cover gasket leak problem on my 2007 X3 though it is not quite severe now. I made several calls to different dealers. But they all denied it is covered under the emissions warranty. I'm just wondering is it because the policy is different in CA? I actually called BMWNA they told me the federal emissions control warranty is 80K or 8 years but they refer me to contact dealer to see if the valve cover gasket problem is indeed covered under the emissions warranty.
Some conflicting info here.

My dealer told me it was federal not CA. My work order says "covered under 7/70 emissions warranty".

Don't know how you get your dealer to honor this, other than telling them what I just told you. As I've mentioned in several other posts, my dealer has been very pro-active in finding ways to authorize service under warranty.

Hey, take a drive to CA and have the work done here.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:05 PM
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.... But they all denied it is covered under the emissions warranty. I'm just wondering is it because the policy is different in CA?.
.... applies only in those jurisdictions that have established periodic vehicle emission tests ...

and,

1. Car has been maintained and operated in accordance with the instructions for proper maintenance and use as set forth in the Owner's Manual ..

2. The car fails to conform to the applicable emission test, and

3. The failure to conform results or will result in the owner of the car having to bear a penalty or other sanction ...

Even in Ca. I bet a lot of dealerships don't put themselves out to help the customer like spoke's Service Advisor does.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:26 AM
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Some conflicting info here.

My dealer told me it was federal not CA. My work order says "covered under 7/70 emissions warranty".
I have a printout from a dealer when I bought one of my cars new. It list what is covered by both CA and FED. It was for a Honda but should apply to all cars. I'll take a photo of it tomorrow.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:41 PM
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http://owners.honda.com/Documentum/W...t/APL32586.pdf

There is a PDF from Honda. Same stuff should be covered by BMW.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:24 PM
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http://owners.honda.com/Documentum/W...t/APL32586.pdf

There is a PDF from Honda. Same stuff should be covered by BMW.
Thanks for the information. What does the number mean i.e. 3/36?
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:12 AM
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Thanks for the information. What does the number mean i.e. 3/36?
3 Years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes first.

Some items for CA are 7 years or 70,000 miles.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:38 PM
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Re: Oil leak

At 96k miles, the vcg on my 04 x3, 3.0 started to leak out oil, same area as you pointed out with pix. My Indy did the vcg replacement, last week for about 250. He replaced the spark plugs and air filter, and did an oil change at the same time to make it economically feasible. this tune up was due anyway as i am near 100k mile service interval. My total repair/maintenance cost on this came up to 560.

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