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X1 E84 (2011 - current)
The new to the US BMW X1 will arrive at BMW dealers in the fall of 2012 as a 2013 model year. Get your X1 28i with either sDrive (RWD) or xDrive (AWD) or get the US exclusive I6 N55 powered X1 35i dDrive.

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Old 05-07-2013, 07:57 AM
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Tailgate, how do YOU close it?

I'm still trying to figure out this tailgate grab handle thing.
I guess I'm supposed to grab the inside of the tailgate with my hand palm facing
upwards or back towards me.
I can then easily pull the gate down, but at the bottom then what?
Do you bring it down with slightly enough force to let go, and it will then just
close on its own? or do you get it down far enough, so that you can then move
your hand to the outside(on the paint), and push it shut.
Am I missing something?
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:50 AM
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I grab one of the handles palm up, and pull it down in one motion with enough force to close and latch it. Once you get the force right, you can do it one-handed consistently. Only occasionally does latching it require an extra step because I didn't use enough effort. But I wouldn't consider myself an "average" owner ... I have days when I open the hatch a dozen times or more, so I get lots of practice.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:56 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out this tailgate grab handle thing.
I guess I'm supposed to grab the inside of the tailgate with my hand palm facing
upwards or back towards me.
I can then easily pull the gate down, but at the bottom then what?
Do you bring it down with slightly enough force to let go, and it will then just
close on its own? or do you get it down far enough, so that you can then move
your hand to the outside(on the paint), and push it shut.
Am I missing something?
I really wish it was a motorized tailgate....I think you have to grab the outside, slam to close it like other non motorized tailgates....
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:03 AM
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Only had the car a few days, but I haven't yet found a good technique to close it. I have tried the one handed technique mentioned by HotRodW and it has worked about half of the times I tried. The other half, I have moved my hand to the outside on the paint. Perhaps with practice I will perfect the one-handed technique. I really wish it was motorized - would have paid for that as an option.

FWIW - when I took delivery at PCD, the specialist who introduced the car also referenced how awkward it is to close the tailgate.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:38 PM
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Closing hatch

I owned a MINI and it was similar. On the X1 we just got, I use the handle to pull it down, then the BMW emblem to push it closed when it is about 6" from closing. Works every time. Before doing this, I noticed that it did not close each time and there is actually a light in that compartment that will stay on if the hatch is not closed securely.
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Old 05-07-2013, 05:31 PM
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I owned a MINI and it was similar. On the X1 we just got, I use the handle to pull it down, then the BMW emblem to push it closed when it is about 6" from closing. Works every time. Before doing this, I noticed that it did not close each time and there is actually a light in that compartment that will stay on if the hatch is not closed securely.
Cool, going to try that method!
Yes, mine doesn't always close perfect as well.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:31 PM
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Tailgate, how do YOU close it?

Same question here... I'm going to try both the methods. Thx


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Old 05-07-2013, 06:56 PM
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I use the inside tailgate grab handle to pull it down, then I put the palm from the other hand on top of the rear whiper shaft to push it close.
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Tailgate, how do YOU close it?

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Old 05-07-2013, 09:10 PM
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Haha. My thoughts exactly!
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:52 AM
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I use the inside tailgate grab handle to pull it down, then I put the palm from the other hand on top of the rear whiper shaft to push it close.
This is exactly what I do.
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Tailgate, how do YOU close it?

Is this a real thread? Are you people kidding????? Put your hand on the tailgate, push it down until closed. Get on with your life!


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Old 05-08-2013, 10:28 AM
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Is this a real thread? Are you people kidding????? Put your hand on the tailgate, push it down until closed. Get on with your life!


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Help yourself...but that's not going to happen on MY X1. With the amount of dirt(road film) that gets deposited on the rear hatch just grabbing it and closing it will grind that dirt(and respective scratches) into the paint. So I suppose this IS a real thread.
For those that don't GAS about those fine scratches in their hatch, I suppose this shouldn't be a real thread.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:12 AM
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BMW should post an owner's video showing the one-hand-slam. That would be great!
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:57 PM
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Help yourself...but that's not going to happen on MY X1. With the amount of dirt(road film) that gets deposited on the rear hatch just grabbing it and closing it will grind that dirt(and respective scratches) into the paint. So I suppose this IS a real thread.
For those that don't GAS about those fine scratches in their hatch, I suppose this shouldn't be a real thread.
Are you serious? How hard do you grind your hand and swirl it around when closing the tail gate?

The wind from freeway driving will grind in more sand/grit/dirt in your paint than your hand will.

How do you wash your car? If you spray it with water your putting a force on it that will push and grind dirt into the paint.


Not trying to sound like a douche but putting your hand on the paint won't cause any problems. A lot less than pushing on the read wiper, swinging the gate down in an awkward motion which could cause problems with the gas cylinders or doing a double palms out facing North backflip with a triple gainer shut technique.

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Relax dude.

I think a lot of people don't want to put their hands all over the back end paint and scratch it since dirt[1] can collect there.
Most cars have easy to grab handles away from touching paint just for this purpose.
BMW's handle grab is not intuitive.

[1] and I mean Canada dirt, not California dirt.
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Relax dude.

I think a lot of people don't want to put their hands all over the back end paint and scratch it since dirt[1] can collect there.
Most cars have easy to grab handles away from touching paint just for this purpose.
BMW's handle grab is not intuitive.

[1] and I mean Canada dirt, not California dirt.
I'm very relaxed.

Do you touch the paint when you close your door? How about when you close your hood? I do, and I have no scratches from it.
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I'm very relaxed.

Do you touch the paint when you close your door? How about when you close your hood? I do, and I have no scratches from it.
Of course, not as much dirt.
I suppose grabbing the tail isn't that big of a deal if there is no grime caked on.
I just wonder what the engineers were thinking putting the grab handle in an awkward
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Not trying to sound like a douche...
some people don't need to "try"
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...but putting your hand on the paint won't cause any problems.
you're correct...but putting your hand on the dirt and rubbing it into the paint will certainly hurt it. Just because YOU can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
By your logic, one needn't use soap and water to remove dirt from the paint. Let us know how that works out.
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Yes I am

some people don't need to "try"

you're correct...but putting your hand on the dirt and rubbing it into the paint will certainly hurt it. Just because YOU can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
By your logic, one needn't use soap and water to remove dirt from the paint. Let us know how that works out.
Actually you don't need soap and water.

Ever heard of waterless car wash?

If you can't verify the scratches exist then they don't...or do they? I will let Schrödinger explain that one to you.

Am I being a douche again without trying?...


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Actually you don't need soap and water.

Ever heard of waterless car wash?
Yes...and I wouldn't use it if it was free.

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If you can't verify the scratches exist then they don't...or do they? I will let Schrödinger explain that one to you.
Fluorescent light tells all. No explanation necessary...30 yrs. of detailing cars and building and finishing fine furniture and I've learned enough to get by.

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Am I being a douche again without trying?...
Only you know whether you are trying or not.
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I'm very relaxed.
For someone who thinks that this entire thread is a waste of time, you have spent a fair amount of effort to get that point across. If it doesn't interest you, don't participate - no need to criticize those who have different priorities.
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Do you touch the paint when you ... close your hood? I do, and I have no scratches from it.
FWIW, the delivery specialist who introduced the X1 to me at PCD explicitly said not to touch the paint on the hood when closing it. When demonstrating how to close the hood (I know, seems silly since we all know how to close a hood right?) he said you should instead gently push down on the BMW rondele with the palm of your hand.
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FWIW, the delivery specialist who introduced the X1 to me at PCD explicitly said not to touch the paint on the hood when closing it. When demonstrating how to close the hood (I know, seems silly since we all know how to close a hood right?) he said you should instead gently push down on the BMW rondele with the palm of your hand.
I'm doing PCD in June. Is there anything you wish your delivery specialist would have covered or explained more thoroughly?

Btw, the roundel sounds like the best alternative.
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Another option is to get a " L shape" Metal trim mounted at bottom from back side of the licence plate. I bought it fro MB dealer. It comes in black or chrome finish.
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