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Old 05-09-2013, 08:30 PM
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Are Forged Really Stronger?

I have a 335I and just took off my 19" Miro's/Matte Black due to cracks again that led to tire pressure leaks.

I am now back to stock rims and feel like driving off the 5. Is there a Stronger Wheel out there that won't crack over a pot hole?

Is Avant Garde the way to go? Forged?

I had Miro's and will never again due to fragility.

Anyone ????

Thanks for your input

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Old 05-09-2013, 09:18 PM
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My beyerns seem better. They have a couple of forged offerings. They only make bmw wheels which is nice. My americas tire guy has not had any problems with beyerns
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:08 PM
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I have a 335I and just took off my 19" Miro's/Matte Black due to cracks again that led to tire pressure leaks.

I am now back to stock rims and feel like driving off the 5. Is there a Stronger Wheel out there that won't crack over a pot hole?

Is Avant Garde the way to go? Forged?

I had Miro's and will never again due to fragility.

Anyone ????

Thanks for your input

jeff

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I'm thinking about Avant Garde M368's in dolphin-grey finish on my Space Grey 2012 E92 and have the same concerns. Are cast wheels just waiting to crack? I can get a set of these wheels for about a grand.

M368-Dolphin-Gray-440

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Old 05-09-2013, 10:31 PM
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Useful information from TireRack.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=90&

Discusses cast, forged, and several technologies in between.
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Old 05-09-2013, 10:36 PM
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Oh, and BMW wheels (well, at least my Style 162 Sport Package wheels) are low-pressure cast.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:36 AM
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Larger wheels (e.g. 19") are more inclined to crack than smaller wheels (e.g. 17"). In New England, due to the many potholes, some owners stick with 17" wheels -- myself included. My guess is you like the look of 19" wheels. However, you might consider 18" wheels as a good compromise between looks and practicality.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:39 PM
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Thank you guys

Looking into these:

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Old 05-10-2013, 12:42 PM
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I am also looking at those, but in the dark Dolphin Grey that Avant Garde does many of their wheels. They quoted me an additional $200 for the custom finish. I wanted the M368's but it seens AG is no longer making those in 19" with the 5 x 120 lug pattern for BMW's.

What do you think of the ones below? I'm thinking maybe too plain?


M550-Dolphin-Gray-440 by rzgkane, on Flickr

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Old 05-10-2013, 12:55 PM
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Can you find a pic of them on a car like yours? Just standing there by itself I think it would look plain. But it's hard to tell off the car.
Try going to tirerack and modeling a wheel that looks like that one on your spec'ed car. A useful feature there. Post results here.

EDIT: Here's one that looks maybe close enough for you to try out on the virtual 335i model.
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:59 PM
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They can be seen here? I like a clean look. Not too much craziness like the M310's. I'd really like a set of BMW 313's but they are mega bucks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19-Avant-Gar...e8bda9&vxp=mtr
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:00 PM
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Hmmm. Not bad. What color is your car?
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Hmmm. Not bad. What color is your car?
Space Grey. With OEM carbon fiber rear spoiler and mirror covers. I think I like the smoky look over the matte black.
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TL;DR version - a forged wheel of approximately the same style and size as the cast alternative will be lighter.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:53 PM
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My winter 18s are 18.4 pounds each. OZ Racing Ultraleggeras. Low pressure cast and shot peened.
Significantly lighter than my OE summers.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:57 PM
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What is a winter?
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:23 PM
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Ha Ha, Mister "I get shorts and tee shirt weather all year round."

Just to say it though: My winter tire/wheel set. Pirelli Sottozero Serie II winter performance tires on OZ Racing Ultraleggeras.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:24 PM
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Ha Ha, Mister "I get shorts and tee shirt weather all year round."

Just to say it though: My winter tire/wheel set. Pirelli Sottozero Serie II winter performance tires on OZ Racing Ultraleggeras.
I grew up in Smithtown, though, so I've had my share of frozen toes and shoveling driveways.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:27 PM
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Since others are posting pics of their wheels (or wheels they're considering):



Get nothing but compliments--looks very good on my particular car.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:35 PM
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I like that wheel. How much and what size?

I could do without all the words and symbols cast into the wheel, though.
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18x8 non-staggered (winter setup as I mentioned, so didn't want to go big).

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...al+Valve+Stems

They have them in wider and 19s if you care for that.

I guess they figured their name was a selling point, so they cast it into the metal....they're known in Formula One circles.
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18x8 non-staggered (winter setup as I mentioned, so didn't want to go big).

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...al+Valve+Stems

They have them in wider and 19s if you care for that.

I guess they figured their name was a selling point, so they cast it into the metal....they're known in Formula One circles.
Those are your Winter wheels? Respect mon!
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I used to have cheap Sport Editions for my winter wheels.

Fast forward 5 years and multiple replacement wheels and tires (damn you NY potholes!), and I decided that I would buy STRONG wheels for my winter set. Thus, these Ultraleggeras.
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I used to have cheap Sport Editions for my winter wheels.

Fast forward 5 years and multiple replacement wheels and tires (damn you NY potholes!), and I decided that I would buy STRONG wheels for my winter set. Thus, these Ultraleggeras.
All 4 of my Ultraleggeras have had to be straightend and one was cracked and had to be welded. Maybe it is the RFTs that are the problem but it's been frustrating. Additionally the paint started deteriorating and I had all 4 repainted in BMW gunmetal gray. I will not be buying OZ's again. FYI- My sigpic is before they were repainted. They are darker now.
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That sucks to hear, man. And it's a little worrying. However....
I have two things going for me in this:
1) I still end up losing tires/wheels to potholes fast enough that I probably won't have any wheel long enough for the paint to peel.
2) Non-runflats.

I think....I've had 15 tires in the nearly six years I've owned the car.
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Re: Are Forged Really Stronger?

Here's what I went with

M510 avant garde/low pressure cast 19"



The Miros (black) kept cracking



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