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Old 05-12-2013, 06:43 PM
surfcity335i surfcity335i is offline
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Wheel fitment 2012 335i Coupe w/MSport...

I just picked up a brand new 2012 335i Coupe with MSport suspension and am a noob when it comes to fitting aftermarket wheels. I've always been an OEM guy. But I am considering replacing my OEM 19" Style 230's with a set of gunmetal VMR710's on my NEW Space Grey 2012 E92 with sport package and I have a question. My current tires are 225/35/19 on 19 x 8 wheels in front and 255/30/19 on 19 x 9 wheels in the rear. Will re-using my tires on the VMR wheels (8.5 in front and 10.0 in rear) stretch my tires too much such that I lose what little protection the rubber provides the wheels from curb rash? Will it leave my setup looking like the 20 year old kid with massive amounts of metal lip hanging way out there? I don't want that. I also don't want to buy new tires.

I am also considering some Avant Garde M510's and they come in 8.5 and 9.5. Would that be a better option if keeping my NEW existing tires is the priority?
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:01 PM
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:10 PM
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I just picked up a brand new 2012 335i Coupe with MSport suspension and am a noob when it comes to fitting aftermarket wheels. I've always been an OEM guy. But I am considering replacing my OEM 19" Style 230's with a set of gunmetal VMR710's on my NEW Space Grey 2012 E92 with sport package and I have a question. My current tires are 225/35/19 on 19 x 8 wheels in front and 255/30/19 on 19 x 9 wheels in the rear. Will re-using my tires on the VMR wheels (8.5 in front and 10.0 in rear) stretch my tires too much such that I lose what little protection the rubber provides the wheels from curb rash? Will it leave my setup looking like the 20 year old kid with massive amounts of metal lip hanging way out there? I don't want that. I also don't want to buy new tires.

I am also considering some Avant Garde M510's and they come in 8.5 and 9.5. Would that be a better option if keeping my NEW existing tires is the priority?
I think 8.5/9.5 is a better rim size if you want to re-use the tires you have. Offset makes a difference too when staggering so ensure you do research on that area; especially if you go with the 10" rear.

I went with 19x8.5 all the way around as my car is AWD and it is recommended to not stagger. I assume you have RWD? I wrapped mine in 235/35/19 and the fitment is perfect in both front and rear with no rubbing...
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:23 PM
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I think 8.5/9.5 is a better rim size if you want to re-use the tires you have. Offset makes a difference too when staggering so ensure you do research on that area; especially if you go with the 10" rear.

I went with 19x8.5 all the way around as my car is AWD and it is recommended to not stagger. I assume you have RWD? I wrapped mine in 235/35/19 and the fitment is perfect in both front and rear with no rubbing...
Yeah, that's what I'm figuring, 9.5's in the rear (RWD). But the sellers are out of stock on the 9.5's until July so they all tell you what they think will sell a set of wheels. 10's are fine. No problem. We do it all the time, etc. I've heard that before. I'll end up with 1/2 of wheel lip metal just hanging out there, crying out for the next curb.
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:03 PM
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I think 8.5/9.5 is a better rim size if you want to re-use the tires you have. Offset makes a difference too when staggering so ensure you do research on that area; especially if you go with the 10" rear.

I went with 19x8.5 all the way around as my car is AWD and it is recommended to not stagger. I assume you have RWD? I wrapped mine in 235/35/19 and the fitment is perfect in both front and rear with no rubbing...
Why not stagger? My 2011 335i Xdrive coupe came staggered from BMW, so why is it not recommended??
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:42 PM
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Here's the one I think I'm going to go with on my 2012 Space Grey 335i Coupe. 19 x 8 in the front and 19 x 9.5 in the rear.


Mirabeau_Matte_Black_1 by rzgkane, on Flickr
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:50 PM
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How about the OEM 313 wheels?
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:24 AM
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How about the OEM 313 wheels?
Love 'em. However, I think I prefer gunmetal or black and the 313's don't come in those finishes, and the are TOO EXPENSIVE. I'm getting those TSW's in matte black for $1250 installed.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:27 AM
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Why not stagger? My 2011 335i Xdrive coupe came staggered from BMW, so why is it not recommended??
The question would be "Why stagger on AWD?". What is the point? It is fine as long as the wheel/tire diameter is the same or within mm of each other. If they are even a 1/5inch off it can point your drivetrain into a bind.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:15 AM
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The question would be "Why stagger on AWD?". What is the point? It is fine as long as the wheel/tire diameter is the same or within mm of each other. If they are even a 1/5inch off it can point your drivetrain into a bind.
Stagger on Xdrive for same reason as RWD. Xdrive drives 60% power to rear.

Not an apples to apples comparison, but my winter setup is 17" non-staggered. Traction control comes on much more often with the winter tires. Yes, a lot of that is due to tire compound (winter versus summer), but I can tell you that my winters wear a lot more in rear as compared to front. This is not true of the staggered setup and I run the summer setup a lot harder as you can imagine.

I also find it hard to believe BMW would put staggered wheels on Xdrive if they thought it would compromise the drivetrain. BMW engineers are critical about everything.

I am not ignoring the fact that AWD systems need to have similar diameters to avoid damage in the drivetrain (new tires need to be put on in sets of 4 for example) but I do think the delta in staggered setup is much smaller and acceptable.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:47 AM
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Here it is all done. 19" TSW Maribeau wheels in 8.0 in front and 9.5 in the rear. I like it. Not busy like some of the other wheels I was considering like the AG M310 or the VMR710. Although I liked those options, I like the cleanliness of the TSW Maribuea's better.


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Old 05-15-2013, 11:14 AM
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Stagger on Xdrive for same reason as RWD. Xdrive drives 60% power to rear.

Not an apples to apples comparison, but my winter setup is 17" non-staggered. Traction control comes on much more often with the winter tires. Yes, a lot of that is due to tire compound (winter versus summer), but I can tell you that my winters wear a lot more in rear as compared to front. This is not true of the staggered setup and I run the summer setup a lot harder as you can imagine.

I also find it hard to believe BMW would put staggered wheels on Xdrive if they thought it would compromise the drivetrain. BMW engineers are critical about everything.

I am not ignoring the fact that AWD systems need to have similar diameters to avoid damage in the drivetrain (new tires need to be put on in sets of 4 for example) but I do think the delta in staggered setup is much smaller and acceptable.
Just curious, which wheels did you have oem that were staggered and what are the tire sizes?
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:37 AM
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Just curious, which wheels did you have oem that were staggered and what are the tire sizes?
The M sport with Xdrive (coupe) in 2011 came standard with the 18" 193M wheels. The rear tire size is 255-35-18, and the fronts are 225-40-18. I believe the rear is 8.5" and front is 8" but I am not sure.. could be 7.5" and 8".

I believe the M sport Xdrive now comes standard with 17" wheels, but the 193M is an option (additional cost). I guess they are still staggered with the 193M option but I can't be sure. The BMW website doesn't show the tire sizes.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:10 AM
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how is the ride with the m sport? What are the main noticable differences as compared to a non msport 335. I wont have a oportunity to test an m sport for a while but plan to.
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