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Old 05-15-2013, 06:39 PM
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For reference, my 2006 7 has 76K on the clock. Right when we bought the car in June 2011 (16 months left on CPO), we had the dealer replace the rear and right rear sunshade, the sunroof seal and passenger seat extender (conditional on sale of vehicle to us).

In Nov 11 the A/C blower was replaced . In Jan 12, the transmission sealing sleeve and vacuum pump were replaced for oil leaks. In Nov 12, after it exited CPO (but still got it covered), we got the value cover gaskets and eccentric shaft sensor seals (R and L) replaced, The valley pan replaced, ARS sway bar replaced, U Joint replaced and lower radiator hose/temp sensor replaced.

So I just had my Brake Booster, Master Cylinder and Vacuum Pump changed for $2300. My mechanic said my car didn't qualify under the recall from Oct 2010 (my VIN wasn't listed) so I am out of pocket. BTW, Kudos to my shop for getting it all done and taken care of in one day. I assume this basically replaces the “whole brake system”.
I'm not upset about the repair, it is just tough to take after replacing both front upper control arms (one was worn, the shop advised to do both for preventative maintenance) for $900 and tires for another $1000 last month.

Other than the brakes failing yesterday, my mechanic says the car looks great. He did say there is a bit of oil seepage from the transmission pan but it isn’t getting worse, just needs to be monitored. That repair cost is around $350, mostly b/c of a transmission flush on expensive OEM fluid. To me that will be more maintenance b/c the car will need a transmission flush soon anyway.

I was "expecting" around $2500/year ($200/month) for repairs/maintenance per year. Was this too low of a number to expect? What are others spending on repairs/maintenance per year? Have my prior repairs covered most of the “big items”
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:01 PM
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:54 AM
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It really depends ive spent 5k on repairs and not just typical maintenance. Valve cover gaskets, upper timing chain gasket, spark plugs, sway bar, control arms, valley pan, water pump, lower radiator hose, radiator temperature sensor, brakes, battery.....


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Old 05-20-2013, 06:34 AM
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I'm budgeting $4k/year, but I've got the V12.


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Old 05-20-2013, 07:59 AM
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It really depends ive spent 5k on repairs and not just typical maintenance. Valve cover gaskets, upper timing chain gasket, spark plugs, sway bar, control arms, valley pan, water pump, lower radiator hose, radiator temperature sensor, brakes, battery.....


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I guess it seems to me everyone has the same issues, so if you have all of the above done should you be good to go a while?

Of what you have listed my car (while I've had it) has had all of the above replaced except the water pump, spark plugs, battery and upper timing chain gasket. Two of thoes items are maintenance anyway.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:16 AM
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around 5k/yr .
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Old 05-21-2013, 02:36 PM
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I have spent about 6,000 but car has 130,000 miles and needed the work, I just don't like the engine vibration when stopped and idling. I am told it was cost more for that service, working on cleaning cylinders, etc, etc. I hope to keep my car for 300,000 Miles
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:20 PM
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WOW, You say in Nov 11 you had the trans sealing sleeve and vacuum pump replaced? Surely the vacuum pump wouldn't need replacing again? Or did they just do the o-rings the first time?

Regarding the trans leak the dealer should have fitted a new pan when they done the sealing sleeve repair.

These cars are expensive to run and maintain, anyone on here will tell you that, in the UK these cars are CHEAP for this very reason, luckily I can afford to run the car (only just!) because I do all the repair work myself, I wouldn't want to be in a position where I would have to send the car to a dealer or indy everytime anything went wrong I simply wouldn't be able to afford to do it, I dont think I could sleep at night!

Regarding big things to go wrong, the adaptor seal in the trans is another common issue, again thats a trans pan out job and removing the mechatronics, the seal is only about $5! but its all labour and oil, the other one is the valve stem seals, im sure by the time the seals have gone the guides are knakered too but these cannot be replaced (at least BMW dont sell them, a good engineering fimr may be able to machine some replacements).

I love the car, the engineering and attention to detail in these vehicles is amazing, Im an electronics engineer by trade and I really appreciate the effort and design that makes up the E65. It's just a shame it suffers from such basic and fundamental engine and transmission issues that do not affect a very large majority of budget vehicles!

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Old 05-21-2013, 04:55 PM
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WOW, You say in Nov 11 you had the trans sealing sleeve and vacuum pump replaced? Surely the vacuum pump wouldn't need replacing again? Or did they just do the o-rings the first time?

Regarding the trans leak the dealer should have fitted a new pan when they done the sealing sleeve repair.

These cars are expensive to run and maintain, anyone on here will tell you that, in the UK these cars are CHEAP for this very reason, luckily I can afford to run the car (only just!) because I do all the repair work myself, I wouldn't want to be in a position where I would have to send the car to a dealer or indy everytime anything went wrong I simply wouldn't be able to afford to do it, I dont think I could sleep at night!

Regarding big things to go wrong, the adaptor seal in the trans is another common issue, again thats a trans pan out job and removing the mechatronics, the seal is only about $5! but its all labour and oil, the other one is the valve stem seals, im sure by the time the seals have gone the guides are knakered too but these cannot be replaced (at least BMW dont sell them, a good engineering fimr may be able to machine some replacements).

I love the car, the engineering and attention to detail in these vehicles is amazing, Im an electronics engineer by trade and I really appreciate the effort and design that makes up the E65. It's just a shame it suffers from such basic and fundamental engine and transmission issues that do not affect a very large majority of budget vehicles!

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Thanks Stuart. This recent brake issue first replaced the Booster and the master cylinder. I am not 100% sure what BMW did with the vacuum pump while it was under CPO, but I can tell you after the booster and master cylinder were taken out there was oil that was noticed in those. The only way that could happen I was told was from a bad Vacuum pump from internal leaking. So I had them do the work to replace the vacuum pump. Is the vacuum pump solely a brake system part or something else? Why would it have been replaced in the past for a leak in oil when it is part of my brake system.

That said, I didn't realize that the trans sleeve is the same thing as the seepage that is coming from the trans pan. I guess that makes sense. Is the sleeve just the "o-ring" for the trans pan?

I am told specifically, the Transmission Electrical Sleeve/Plug is showing signs of seepage. Also my oil level sensor is leaking. Looking back at my Service from Jan 2012, they replaced the Vacuum Pump, same part number I just replaced and they also replaced the sealing sleeve, part 24-34-7-588-725 as well as the oil pan gasket and a screw plug. Does it seem off to need to replace all that again in less than 18 months?
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:30 PM
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I spent @ $1,500 for a 2 year extended warranty...just in case. No repairs so far. Had the car for 2 years
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:56 PM
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I spent @ $1,500 for a 2 year extended warranty...just in case. No repairs so far. Had the car for 2 years
Is it $1500 per year for $3000 for a 2 year warranty? What's your deductible? Does it cover everything- pretty much?

Which company did you choose?

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Old 05-24-2013, 08:26 AM
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This is my fourth 7 and so far the most reliable one I have own, bought the car with 42k on the clock about 3 years ago. I then bought the BMW Warranty and to date I have not used it at all. Car has had issues or more nuisances suce as cd changer went replace with one from, a member here, logic 7 amp broke twice and is acting up again this time I will be sending it for repairs. In terms of the car itself no issues I did the trans flush at 60k and change the sleeve also, oil change every 7k and car has been great. So not to jinx myself but I have not really paid anything for repairs in the past 3 years only standard maintenance items brakes, tires etc.

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Old 05-24-2013, 09:00 AM
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This is my fourth 7 and so far the most reliable one I have own, bought the car with 42k on the clock about 3 years ago. I then bought the BMW Warranty and to date I have not used it at all. Car has had issues or more nuisances suce as cd changer went replace with one from, a member here, logic 7 amp broke twice and is acting up again this time I will be sending it for repairs. In terms of the car itself no issues I did the trans flush at 60k and change the sleeve also, oil change every 7k and car has been great. So not to jinx myself but I have not really paid anything for repairs in the past 3 years only standard maintenance items brakes, tires etc.
What year is your 7?

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Old 05-25-2013, 07:13 AM
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My 2006 750Li is my third BMW, and troublefree. Bought it in August 2012 for $32, got in it and drove from Kansas City to northern Maine and back -- 6-7000 miles, not even a murmur. It had 24k on the speedometer, and was well cared for by a very wealthy owner. By comparison to the 1999 540i with 80k and 2007 328xi with 57k on their speedos, this is the best. I bought a 36k warranty from ASSURANT, because I intend to travel to remote areas without a BMW dealer. This is a bumper to bumper policy, a failsafe mechanism for those things I cannot do on the road.

It is easily the best car I have ever ridden in. If you get a good one they are great.
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:19 AM
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What did the policy cost you? What is the deductible?
I'm shopping for a policy now. Thank you
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