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Old 05-19-2013, 07:52 AM
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Mustang & 3-series RWD in snowy Ohio

I'm considering these cars and live in the NE Ohio snow belt. Some here have told me I'm nuts to consider any RWD car here. Others have said the 3er w/ rwd is ok but the Mustang is not (assume both have snow tires).

What is true? Or most true?

If the BMW is safer in snowy conditions than the Mustang (again, assume both have snow tires), why is that? Is it Traction control? solid rear axel on the Mustang? None of the above?

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Old 05-19-2013, 08:20 AM
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I can kinda help with an answer. I've owned two Mustangs, and now own a 335i. When it snows here I'm using my front wheel drive, not my Mustang. I can't imagine that it will be any different with the 335i. And though here in the foothills of upstate SC we don't have the snow you do, we have ice (and hills).
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:09 PM
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Thanks-just wondering if one rwd is better than another these days in terms of handling snow/ice conditions assuming both have snow tires. I currently drive a fwd car w /snow tires in the winter and do very well w/ that combo myself.
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Mustangs, like many older American RWD cars, are front-heavy. This gives less traction on the driven wheels.
BMWs have 50-50 weight distribution, which gives somewhat more traction on the driven wheels.

Still not the greatest though. Get some snow tires for it and it'll do well in most everything snowy except long hills.

EDIT: I also owned a couple of mustangs in years past. Those things sucked big time in snow (without snow tires, to be fair).
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:31 PM
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Weight distribution, and good traction control will make the BMW better than a mustang and everyone sings praised of the E9x with snow tires. Hopefully I can give a review myself this winter.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:29 AM
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Mustangs, like many older American RWD cars, are front-heavy. This gives less traction on the driven wheels.
BMWs have 50-50 weight distribution, which gives somewhat more traction on the driven wheels.

Still not the greatest though. Get some snow tires for it and it'll do well in most everything snowy except long hills.

EDIT: I also owned a couple of mustangs in years past. Those things sucked big time in snow (without snow tires, to be fair).
Thx! Very helpful and makes sense. How about a 1-series w/ snow tires vs a 3-series w snows? I'm guessing very similar?


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The latest generation of Mustangs, the S-197, has traction control and a near 50/50 weight distribution, especially the V6 model. Unless you are considering a 2007-2010 Shelby 500 the weight distribution of the Mustang is going to be on par with the BMW.

The rigid rear axle will make little difference in the snow but will have other deficiencies, such as poorer handling in corners over broken pavement, although all the reviewers have said that the Mustang has the best solid rear axle suspension extent and have praised the over all handling of the Mustang, especially the GT and the Boss 302.

I have a 2006 325i and have not driven it in the snow yet. My next car is going to be a Mustang GT or a Boss 302 but to be honest I won't be driving either my Bimmer or my Mustang in snow very often.

That said with snow tires either one would be fairly capable in the snow so long as you have snow tires and don't have to climb steep hills very often.

I have a front wheel drive car that I put snow tires on in the winter and since I live in flat Indianapolis I have no problem at all getting around in the snow.
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The latest generation of Mustangs, the S-197, has traction control and a near 50/50 weight distribution, especially the V6 model. Unless you are considering a 2007-2010 Shelby 500 the weight distribution of the Mustang is going to be on par with the BMW.

The rigid rear axle will make little difference in the snow but will have other deficiencies, such as poorer handling in corners over broken pavement, although all the reviewers have said that the Mustang has the best solid rear axle suspension extent and have praised the over all handling of the Mustang, especially the GT and the Boss 302.

I have a 2006 325i and have not driven it in the snow yet. My next car is going to be a Mustang GT or a Boss 302 but to be honest I won't be driving either my Bimmer or my Mustang in snow very often.

That said with snow tires either one would be fairly capable in the snow so long as you have snow tires and don't have to climb steep hills very often.

I have a front wheel drive car that I put snow tires on in the winter and since I live in flat Indianapolis I have no problem at all getting around in the snow.
Thanks for the info-I drove the v6 Mustang recently on vacation. Very nice car w 300HP and got ~ 26 MPG overall.


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...How about a 1-series w/ snow tires vs a 3-series w snows? I'm guessing very similar?
Yes, very similar. The 1-series chassis is very similar to an older E46 3-series; both have very similar (nearly 50%/50% f/r) weight distribution and essentially identical powertrains and nannies.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:55 AM
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The latest generation of Mustangs, the S-197, has traction control and a near 50/50 weight distribution, especially the V6 model. Unless you are considering a 2007-2010 Shelby 500 the weight distribution of the Mustang is going to be on par with the BMW.
That's really all you need to know. I put a few hundred thousand miles on cars in winter before AWD or traction control were available, and what it boils down to is: how good a driver are you? A good driver with snow tires - and ESPECIALLY with traction control - can get where they need to go.

My wife's 1994 325i had traction control and she went where she needed to through six Colorado winters with that car and all-season tires.

You can go pretty much anywhere with any car if the weather isn't so bad that you're loony to be on the road at all.
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A BMW with proper winter tires can easily handle just about anything mother nature can throw at it.

By the way, it snows in Germany too.
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A BMW with proper winter tires can easily handle just about anything mother nature can throw at it.

By the way, it snows in Germany too.
Both items are good to know!


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