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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 05-20-2013, 01:32 PM
Jamesonsviggen Jamesonsviggen is offline
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H&R Sport spring review

The F30 has a way of being a bit of a let down out of the box in regards to steering(heft and feedback) and handling(body roll).

Here, we have a great stiff unibody @ 30% more rigidity over it's predecessor but it seems as if controls and feedback have a layer of cream making it hard to feel the benefit.

It started with proper sticky non RFT Michelin PSS' mounted on 20% lighter wheels. Combined with the H&R springs, this should almost be a trifecta or complete option package.

To be honest, I did this mainly as an aesthetic mod, but I would say it's 70/30 as the 30 is actual performance benefit.

Steering:
Heft has definitely increased. I have not driven an E90 in a couple of months, but I feel like it's closer without it being annoyingly heavy.

Feedback is a notch better as well. It is not the return of hydraulic feedback, I feel that is impossible. But I feel an peelback in layers now, I get a bit more communication as to the road surface, more of what I love about the helm of my E36.

Handling:
More information is being transmitted and with a feel of less weight shift/weight transfer. This is felt in braking and even lower speed corners. There is definitely less body roll, certainly not an elimination, but I do not expect that in a 3 series.



Summary:
I feel like this is how the car would have felt if it was an E90+F30 offspring. We get the increased F30 dimensions and stiffness and only a smidge of softening. This can be taken further with a rear swaybar to truly tackle the body roll and struts/shocks to shift it even more from a sedan and more towards SPORTS sedan. I will wait for a rear bar and see if it is worth stopping there.



Here is a pic of the car FILTHY. The springs will settle and lower it a bit more in the front.
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F30: ForgeStar F14 19's summer-OZ Superleggera 17's winter/Rogue Catback/Integral Audio/AFE intake scoop/BMS stage 1

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Old 05-20-2013, 01:40 PM
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I did the same on our F10 last week. It was mainly for the looks, but it feels like it should have been like this from the start

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Old 05-20-2013, 04:36 PM
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Not the same angle, but you get the idea:
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:48 PM
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The F30 (and most recent BMWs) definitely needs it.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:48 PM
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that looks nice.. is that with stock shocks?
was coilovers out of the question?
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:02 PM
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that looks nice.. is that with stock shocks?
was coilovers out of the question?
Stock shocks.

Coilovers just don't fit my needs.

I want to do things bit by bit so I can stop when I feel it's enough.

I might call it a day with just a rear swaybar. If not, I have always liked Koni adjustable struts.
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What's your front and rear wheel gap now? Any possibility of fender rub at all if you hit a dip pretty hard? Are you worried about shortened shock life? Cost if install? I'm seriously considering this on my Sport Line.


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Old 05-20-2013, 05:19 PM
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What's your front and rear wheel gap now? Any possibility of fender rub at all if you hit a dip pretty hard? Are you worried about shortened shock life? Cost if install? I'm seriously considering this on my Sport Line.


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I am just able to slip my hand in up to my fingers, not exact but I also have a caliper to measure in MM lol.

There should be no rub, my tire size and offset are perfect. I am not worried about shortened shock life, these are not that aggressive and I have done so on past cars with no issues in 60k. If these fail at 70k, it will not be during my ownership and it will be out of warranty anyway.

I paid $390 with tax for the install. It is recommended you do an alignment 2-3 weeks later, I did not do so on my CC and had no ill affects, so we'll see.
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F30: ForgeStar F14 19's summer-OZ Superleggera 17's winter/Rogue Catback/Integral Audio/AFE intake scoop/BMS stage 1
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:47 PM
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Very nice. My wheels will be here Wednesday (20" Vossen CV3) and once I have those on I will determine between springs or complete coil overs. Looking at KW and H&R, but not sure yet. But seeing yours come down just about the right height I am wondering if going with springs to save over a 1000 bucks may be the way to go.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:22 PM
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Thanks for posting, this answers a lot of questions. I was debating between Sport and Super Sport and was looking for a review. I think I've made my decision to just go with the H & R Sport. Just texted my homie over at City Tire nearby, they've done a lot of BMWs and Porsches so I trust them to take care of the new ride. I think with the SS I'd have to replace dampeners as well which I'd like to avoid on a brand new car.

BTW... love the blue, especially with the grey contrast in wheels.
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:39 PM
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Thanks for posting, this answers a lot of questions. I was debating between Sport and Super Sport and was looking for a review. I think I've made my decision to just go with the H & R Sport. Just texted my homie over at City Tire nearby, they've done a lot of BMWs and Porsches so I trust them to take care of the new ride. I think with the SS I'd have to replace dampeners as well which I'd like to avoid on a brand new car.

BTW... love the blue, especially with the grey contrast in wheels.
SS' just look bit too low and yes, more likely to hurt your stock struts and feel a negative impact on ride quality.
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F30: ForgeStar F14 19's summer-OZ Superleggera 17's winter/Rogue Catback/Integral Audio/AFE intake scoop/BMS stage 1
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:30 PM
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When you say stock shocks - dynamic or no?
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:38 AM
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When you say stock shocks - dynamic or no?
Static, not dynamic.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:39 AM
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I went down this road with my E46... and I really didn't stop til the car was just a few clicks away from a KP car. It definitely looks great! I should stop looking now so I don't get bit by the mod bug, again.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:55 AM
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I went down this road with my E46... and I really didn't stop til the car was just a few clicks away from a KP car. It definitely looks great! I should stop looking now so I don't get bit by the mod bug, again.
I am doing things in stages so I can stop when it's just right. I have the ability to do it too lol, so no it's not going to get poly bushings and motor/trans mounts, camber plates, braces and bars front and rear lol. I already have one BMW that is a bit pucker inducing on the street, last thing I need is two.
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