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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 05-21-2013, 06:33 PM
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328d pricing news

I was just informed that the F31 diesel with ED is $1285 more. (That may be the first time a BMW option came in at less than I expected.) I'm still not sure if the savings at the pump warrants the added expense, including the opportunity cost of the money. Has anyone seen official EPA mileage for the diesel?

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Old 05-21-2013, 06:47 PM
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I was just informed that the F31 diesel with ED is $1285 more. (That may be the first time a BMW option came in at less than I expected.) I'm still not sure if the savings at the pump warrants the added expense, including the opportunity cost of the money. Has anyone seen official EPA mileage for the diesel?
$1285 more than what?
Official EPA numbers aren't out yet. BMW has predicted 45mpg hwy.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:13 PM
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More than the N20.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:19 PM
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Which N20: 320i or 328i?
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:30 PM
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That sounds pretty fair.
You can go to bmw.com and compare a 320d xDrive and 328i xDrive. The gasser uses 50% more fuel than the d in the city, and >40% combined using the European fuel test cycle.
I'm sure in real world driving the d will do much better on fuel.
What is the price difference between diesel and premium in your neck of the woods?
edit: I was assuming the OP was referring to the 328i and not the 320i.

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Old 05-21-2013, 08:40 PM
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I think OP is referring to 328i since there isn't F31 320i in the new world.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:54 PM
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Let me restate:

According to my CA, 2014 F31 diesel = 2014 F31 gasoline + $1285 for a European Delivery vehicle. That's half the upcharge he expected.

Where I live, the diesel would save me $400-500 per year for fuel. So that's a three or four year break even point for an engine I might (or might not) find a bit less satisfying, and certainly some difficulties locating fuel. Not a slam dunk.
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... certainly some difficulties locating fuel...
I've been driving diesels for nearly 12 years now all over the country and have never had an issue finding fuel.

The extra range of the diesel should help while you search
Normally you find a place with high turnover and keep fueling up there.

I encourage you to drive both before you decide. I plan on doing the same
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:40 AM
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There is diesel EVERYWHERE in the US. I don't understand why so many people make comments that its hard to find.
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There is diesel EVERYWHERE in the US. I don't understand why so many people make comments that its hard to find.
Because they live in Utopia where there aren't any 18 wheelers roaming around.
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MY 2014 retail pricing is out -

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=698219

Based euro delivery retail 328i sport wagon - $38,600. 328d sport wagon - $39,995. A difference of $1395.

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Old 05-23-2013, 09:29 AM
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Nice to see the price disparity isn't different much from the gas version. That said, I don't know if I want less power, even if there is some more torque, for a more expensive price tag and worst sounding engine (preference, I guess?). Curious to see the MPG though.
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Nice to see the price disparity isn't different much from the gas version. That said, I don't know if I want less power, even if there is some more torque, for a more expensive price tag and worst sounding engine (preference, I guess?). Curious to see the MPG though.
0-30 the 328d feels faster because of the torque. It is great for around town driving. You can feel the lack of HP in the upper range. It is really 6 of one half dozen of another. Drive them back to back, it is going to come down to personal preference.

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Curious to know how much an eco-credit might be (if offered).

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Can someone remind me what it was for the 335d? Thanks
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LOL. $4,500 ECO.

I also reap the benefit of $1,000 Federal Clean Diesel Tax credit.
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I'm a 335d owner and got the ecocredit. It was $3500 which essentially equalized the price to a 335i. The pricing on the 328d looks pretty good whether there's an ecocredit or not. The 335d is a real freight train going up grades, but I would expect the performance of the 328d to be more than adequate and it will get much better mileage (I actually have gotten 36 hwy and average about 28-29 for my daily commute in traffic).
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Where I live, the diesel would save me $400-500 per year for fuel. So that's a three or four year break even point for an engine I might (or might not) find a bit less satisfying, and certainly some difficulties locating fuel. Not a slam dunk.
Diesel is always cheaper than premium from late spring till late autumn. My fill-up today is $3.599 vs. premium @ $3.949 as a case in point.

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LOL. $4,500 ECO.

I also reap the benefit of $1,000 Federal Clean Diesel Tax credit.

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Unfortunately, Federal Clean Diesel credit has been phased out. I claimed the credit ( $900 actually) in its last year of existence ( delivered in FY 2010 & filed in 2011). Now, the ECO credit has always been fluctuating between $3,500 & $4,500.

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Thanks, that's was I was seeing on Fed website. The ECO credit is offered by BMW, hopefully it will return with the 2014 diesels.
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Diesel is always cheaper than premium from late spring till late autumn. My fill-up today is $3.599 vs. premium @ $3.949 as a case in point.

That is definitely not the case here in the North East. Diesel is always about 10 cents/gallon more than premium. Seasons have no impact here.
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Texas fuel prices bear little resemblance to much of the USA. It's the same with aviation (100LL) fuel prices. You can't expect inexpensive but fresh Gulf shrimp in Minnesota, either.

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I checked diesel price when filling up yesterday, it was 10 cents per gallon less than regular gas.
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Texas fuel prices bear little resemblance to much of the USA. It's the same with aviation (100LL) fuel prices. You can't expect inexpensive but fresh Gulf shrimp in Minnesota, either.

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That is interesting. Is it because most of the refineries are in Texas or close by? I had a Touareg TDI and diesel is always pricy here but used to get 30Mpg highway if I didn't have a lead foot.
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