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Old 05-21-2013, 11:59 PM
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Another "look how good MPG the 535i can get w/ pics to prove it"....

I left my license at home so had to drive very smoothly and conservatively. Mostly highway drive at 75 MPH (the 54 MPH average reflects suburban driving as well) and easy throttle (driving the car like that really brings up how exceptionally it acts as a true Luxury Car).

The result was almost 35 MPG. And no, the drive was rarely if at all downhill oriented. I had it in "Comfort" and not even "Eco Pro" at all. A/C off but the HVAC blowing fresh air. I was not even trying to get good MPG, I happened to check it at a light for the heck of it and was surprised.

What other car gets such good MPG where earlier in the day you did some WOT sprints to almost 7K RPM's utilizing what is most probably 330+ Torque at the crank at 1,200 RPM's to spin the wheels a little loose? At this point BMW has made an N55 fanboy out of me.

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Old 05-22-2013, 01:10 AM
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Nice

Not to rain on your parade, but wind can bias consumption readings as much as down/up-hill'ing does. Was it windy at all?

With my 528xi, I often get similar MPG heading one direction, only to get it at some 29 on return back home (same day, same weather, same speed etc.).

PS. Oh, and please don't wonder if I've written this because I'm jealous of your I6; yes I definitely am
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:30 AM
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Haha. Well your 28i should surpass that under equal conditions in MPG, so you should be happy about that! Actually I didn't pay attention to the wind. Wind levels tonight are pretty much standstill, however. But I know what you mean, one way the mileage will usually be a lot worse than others.

The interesting thing (to me) is that I wasn't even paying attention to MPG. I just happened to gaze my MPG screen and was surprised, especially considering how I wasn't even overly babying it or driving in Eco Pro. Though of course, as I said, I was driving very smoothly and keeping it at or under 75 MPH with CC for most of the way. Still, I did do some city driving with that as well.

Usually I get lesser mileage but I almost always do something "spirited" when I drive this car.
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One thing in your post is worth emphasizing, though: with 'nice and easy' (not necessarily slow) driving, F10 really feels like a true luxury car... For those 'spirited moments' it's a bit too heavy to my taste
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:54 AM
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One thing in your post is worth emphasizing, though: with 'nice and easy' (not necessarily slow) driving, F10 really feels like a true luxury car... For that 'spirited moments' it's a bit too heavy to my taste
I agree, but I feel like it really starts to "shrink around you" when you do that. When I think of my car in the two altering styles of driving (granny or hooligan), I keep perceiving two different cars. Of course I'm sure not like an E60 or E90 in how nimble it feels (the F10 a wafty large car inherently, after all), however, those two cars can't touch how ultra luxury it feels when you do drive it easy-peasy.
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Another "look how good MPG the 535i can get w/ pics to prove it"....

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If your average mpg is more than 24, then you are driving it like an old lady.
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Another "look how good MPG the 535i can get w/ pics to prove it"....

Around town I get about 16 mpg when I drive. My wife can easily get mid 20s. She drives like my Grandmom.


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The real life gas mileage difference between the 535i and the 528i is not as much as most people think, maybe a 2 mpg on a good day.

The 535i, in my opinion, get amazing gas milage for with its size and power. A good example is that over the weekend, I test drove a Jaguar XF AWD 6 cylinder supercharged, one heck of a luxury car for the money by the way, the power and size was pretty similar to the F10. The wife and I was discussing how the XF might be our next car soon. Then we took a look at the window sticker, 16 MPG city and 25 MPG highway, that is almost 25% less efficient than my F10. We look at the specs further and the XF is actually a bit lighter than the F10. I think if I were to live with 16 MPG in the city, I am better off with a 550i which has tons more power.
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The real life gas mileage difference between the 535i and the 528i is not as much as most people think, maybe a 2 mpg on a good day.
I deliberately refrained from raining on my good friend K-A's parade, but have to burst X-Men's bubble with this.

My avg speed was 73.9mph instead of 53.9mph and mileage was 36.2mph instead of 34.8mph.
We were literally crawling for the first good half an hour of the trip (rush hour 5PM)
so guess what i did later to bring the avg speed to 73.9mph

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mileage was 36.2mph instead of 34.8mph.
I am sorry, isnt that what I just said, 2 MPG difference between the two ???? Personally, I would not give up the extra passing power on the highway and the powertrain refinement of the N55 for that extra 2 MPG on the highway, but to each his own.

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I am sorry, isnt that what I just said, 2 MPG difference between the two ???? Personally, I would not give up the extra passing power on the highway and the powertrain refinement of the N55 for that extra 2 MPG on the highway, but to each his own.
Only 2 MPG difference because i was driving 20MPH faster. But you conveniently overloooked that.

If I were driving at 53.9mph, mileage will be in the 40's without a doubt. and that.. is little more than 2MPG difference.

Anyways, enough of this MPG discussion. honestly i dont attach anymore importance to it than the fact that it helps me avoid gas stations for 3 weeks or sometimes even more.

The point i wanted to make was, it was a 4 hour drive - there were construction zones, trucks, toll booths and left lane hoggers as is the case with most expressways. I had an initial sluggish half an hour on my trip and afterwards i always attempted to drive ~82MPH at any chance i got.

and I ended up with 36.2 mpg
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Only 2 MPG difference because i was driving 20MPH faster. But you conveniently overloooked that.

If I were driving at 53.9mph, mileage will be in the 40's without a doubt. and that.. is little more than 2MPG difference.
I seriously doubt you can average above 40 MPG doing any speed. This thread is pretty typical of many of these MPG threads, the guys with the smaller engines always exaggerate about the gas mileage and the owners with the bigger engine like to exaggerate the extra power.
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I seriously doubt you can average above 40 MPG doing any speed.
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When it comes to gas mileage, there are many factors involve, wind direction, wind intensity, the grade of the road, road smoothness, ambient temp, altitude, tires, passenger and cargo. Driving style plays a big role as well, I bet an conversative driver averaging 75 MPH can get as good gas mileage as an aggressive driver averaging 55 MPG. Your assertion that under the same conditions. the 528i can get more than 6 MPG than the 535i on the highway is simply not true, I think you are under estimating how efficient the N55 engine really is.

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If I were driving at 53.9mph, mileage will be in the 40's without a doubt. and that.. is little more than 2MPG difference.
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I seriously doubt you can average above 40 MPG doing any speed.
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Anyone can do it for one trip, but to average 40+ MPG for the life of your car, thats impossible.
Im sorry, suddenly we are talking about lifetime MPG?
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I hate to sound patronizing, but this thread (like many others of this kind) is becoming fanboyish.

I'm sure you guys know better than that, being passionate BMW 'power users' - no car (even a BMW) can defy laws of physics. A certain mass, moving against certain (and multiple) resistance forces with a certain (and variable) speed, will need a certain amount of energy to have the job (work) done - period.

The energy comes from burning fuel, and how much fuel is needed depends on its quality and efficiency of the engine - I seriously doubt the latter is much different between the same generation, various capacity BMW motors. So I totally agree that everything else equal, a 528i will probably need the same amount of fuel for a given work as a 535i (or even 550i) would. The only minute differences could possibly come from the total curb weight differences...
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Great numbers all round! I only have <700 miles on my new 528i, but cruising back and forth to work (in Atlanta highway traffic) I'm constantly 32mpg to 37mpg - not bad at all.
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Okay, I have to chime in with some examples. Comparing two cars with different engines is pointless unless they're also the same driver. Wind has less impact than the driving style.

Case in point, a few years ago our family grew and we traded in the 2002 X5 with the 4.4L V8. Gas prices were climbing and my wife wanted a *gasp* minivan with a smaller engine but wanted AWD. So we traded in the X5 V8 for a Sienna with a V6. She was expecting better mileage with the minivan but she traded in her real world mileage of 19-21mph combined in the X5 to 16-18mpg in the Sienna with V6. Piss poor fuel consumption for a 3.3L V6. Why? I believe it's her aggressive driving style and an anemic sewing machine engine and transmission of the Sienna.

I also moved from a 540i (E39) to a 530i (E60). My reasons had more to do with staying away from 'the man' and my lack of self restraint with the skinny pedal as it did with gas mileage. The result, no change in gas consumption although I think I got a little better mileage in the 540i. Again, I attribute it to my more aggressive driving style that pushes the I6 a little more than I did with the V8. I have never come close to getting the kind of mileage that's printed on the Monroney sticker and it's not a consistent under or over stated mpg.
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Im sorry, suddenly we are talking about lifetime MPG?
As you can see, I retracted that statement already. What I should have said was lifetime highway gas milage, but I realized that is impossible since everyone drives in the city for a portion of their trip. I can tell you that if I drive conservatively on the highway, I can average mid 30s MPG. The 528i, might be able to get 2 to 3 MPG more on the average, but not 6 MPG more on the average like you claim. Internet gas mileage is a wonderful thing, as soon as someone make a post claiming they can get 40 MPG, you can bet that there is another post claiming they got 41 MPG
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As you can see, I retracted that statement already. What I should have said was lifetime highway gas milage, but I realized that is impossible since everyone drives in the city for a portion of their trip. I can tell you that if I drive conservatively on the highway, I can average mid 30s MPG. The 528i, might be able to get 2 to 3 MPG more on the average, but not 6 MPG more on the average like you claim. Internet gas mileage is a wonderful thing, as soon as someone make a post claiming they can get 40 MPG, you can bet that there is another post claiming they got 41 MPG
I agree that lifetime MPG will not be 6MPG more.
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15.2 on my 550ix after 5.1K miles. Thought it would be better. But don't really care. I'm driving an F10 so whatever

@K-A: I think you've been a fan boy for a while now but just haven't admitted it until now?
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15.2 on my 550ix after 5.1K miles. Thought it would be better. But don't really care. I'm driving an F10 so whatever

@K-A: I think you've been a fan boy for a while now but just haven't admitted it until now?
Haha, yes, definitely an F10/N55/whatever you wanna call it fanboy, it's earned at least that much. Like my previous cars know, however.... if they slip up, I'm out, so F10 better stay on its toes!
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