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Old 05-23-2013, 08:14 AM
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I am about to pull the trigger on a 2014 F30 MSport in Mineral Grey, 6mt etc. I was all set to upgrade to the 19" 403 rims as i like them more. My concern is 403 design (when compared to the standard 18" M Sport Rim) will hide the caliper of the new M Sport Brake.

Am I over thinking this?
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:19 AM
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Opinions welcome please:

I am about to pull the trigger on a 2014 F30 MSport in Mineral Grey, 6mt etc. I was all set to upgrade to the 19" 403 rims as i like them more. My concern is 403 design (when compared to the standard 18" M Sport Rim) will hide the caliper of the new M Sport Brake.

Am I over thinking this?
Yes you are over thinking. Get the 19' if you like the look better. Just keep in mind that if your roads are less than perfect like where I live, they can be a real PITA.

Here is a link of a car with 403's and red calipers, looks fine to me:
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840067

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Old 05-23-2013, 10:46 AM
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thanks! Does anyone know if our MSport Brakes for 2014 come in a choice of colors? I was assuming they were blue.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:49 AM
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thanks! Does anyone know if our MSport Brakes for 2014 come in a choice of colors? I was assuming they were blue.
no color on msport
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:53 AM
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I found this photo of the M Sport brakes on the 19s. I think it looks pretty sexy.

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Old 05-23-2013, 10:55 AM
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thanks! Does anyone know if our MSport Brakes for 2014 come in a choice of colors? I was assuming they were blue.
For 2013 we had no choice of any colors in the US msport as far as I know. Now you could upgrade and get Mperformance Brakes after you get the car or as a port installed option. Those come with gold, red or yellow calipers and drilled rotors I believe.

It could change for 2014, i don't know. I will leave for someone else to answer.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:59 AM
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I found this photo of the M Sport brakes on the 19s. I think it looks pretty sexy.
Those are hot, and it should come for those who get msport with EBii (it would match). Unfortunately it's part of a brake package upgrade
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:55 AM
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I found this photo of the M Sport brakes on the 19s. I think it looks pretty sexy.
Outside the USA you can get those calipers as an option. In the USA, you can only get the M Performance upgrade, which is dealer installed or port installed, and includes those calipers in blue, red, or yellow, plus bigger, drilled rotors as well.
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:27 PM
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Outside the USA you can get those calipers as an option. In the USA, you can only get the M Performance upgrade, which is dealer installed or port installed, and includes those calipers in blue, red, or yellow, plus bigger, drilled rotors as well.
For 2013, in the US, the only available brake option was/is to order the "M Performance" brakes, which are either port installed, dealer installed, or self installed.
They are available in red, yellow, or orange calipers. Also, they are not "drilled", they are dimpled and slotted, and are vented between the rotor faces.

Also unique to the US market, Msport line F30's get the more aggressive Euro brake pad. The non Msport lines get a much lower dust brake pad.

In non US markets there is the option to get the "M Sport" brakes, which ONLY come in blue.
They are described as being the same Brembo calipers as used in the "M Performance" brake kit. But, It's not clear if the "M Sport" rotors are the same enlarged size over the OEM rotors that come standard on the 328i and 335i.
IOW, the "M Sport" brake option may only get the blue Brembo calipers, but may still have the same rotors as stock.

What is known is that the "M Sport" rotors are not dimpled, they are smooth.
The M Performance brake kit includes larger front and rear rotors and are dimpled, slotted, and vented between the two sides of the rotor.

For 2014 the US market will include the "M Sport" brake option that has been available in other markets. These calipers are exclusively blue in color.

The M Performance brake kit will continue to be offered as port, dealer, or self installed, and will again only be offered in red, yellow, or orange painted calipers. Blue color is not available on M Performance calipers. Blue calipers are only for "M Sport" brake option.

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Old 06-08-2013, 05:16 PM
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Does it stop the car in shorter distance than standard brake?
Does the brake pedal feel different?
Is it the same brake fluid replacement procedure as standard brake? (same cost to perform at dealer?)
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:06 PM
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Does it stop the car in shorter distance than standard brake?
Does the brake pedal feel different?
Is it the same brake fluid replacement procedure as standard brake? (same cost to perform at dealer?)
M Sport brakes have saved me from crumpled metal on 2 occasions. Remarkable stopping power and control.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:18 PM
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Does it stop the car in shorter distance than standard brake?
Does the brake pedal feel different?
Is it the same brake fluid replacement procedure as standard brake? (same cost to perform at dealer?)

The brakes are SO good the limiting factor no longer becomes the brake system, but what tires you are running.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:55 AM
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Re: M Sport Brakes

They look very nice!

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Old 06-09-2013, 06:23 PM
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The brakes are SO good the limiting factor no longer becomes the brake system, but what tires you are running.
This is also true of the stock brakes. If you can invoke ABS, the tires and friction coefficient of the road surface are the determining factors of braking efficacy.

Large brakes and/or great clamping force merely feel more powerful as they require less driver input for a given amount of stopping force. The trade-off is less modulation, although this difference is minute with these brakes and makes no real world difference.

For the poster that asked, bleeding them is identical and is easy.
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Old 06-09-2013, 06:49 PM
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Slap a set of Rcomps on and the stock brakes are good for maybe 15-20 minutes before you can induce brake fade. Then again, how many 'festers actually track their f30s?
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M Sport brakes have saved me from crumpled metal on 2 occasions. Remarkable stopping power and control.
Do you mean the standard brakes with the M-sport line, or did you actually get the M Performance brakes? (M sport brakes appear to be a new option for 2014 only.)
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:37 AM
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M-Sport line has the M-Sport caliper and pads, just not M-Sport rotor... right? It's still some improvement over non-M-Sport line brakes.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:24 AM
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M-Sport line has the M-Sport caliper and pads, just not M-Sport rotor... right? It's still some improvement over non-M-Sport line brakes.
What I gather from reading various threads is that only the pads are different, nothing else.
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What I gather from reading various threads is that only the pads are different, nothing else.
hmmmmm so the M-Sport have just the pads different from the "Sport" or "Basic" version!
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I'm actually thinking about the brakes /engine/muflers M packages... but...
1)If i'm do not put mine in the track, will the brakes upgrade really be any value other than cosmetic? In normal driving conditions... Here in Brazil the roads sucks and are rare the momments you can let the car show it's muscles on the asphalt...

2)The M performance muffler is very expensive here (will cost me arround 5000 USD in my currency), but other than affecting the sound, will it give me what? 1-2hp?

3)The engine remap from BMW, i've seen in the 4 series catalog for the N20 engine is good to 274hp... But mine came out at 241cv at wheels and 276cv estimated at the engine by the dino guy... my question is, will it be at least equal to other external tune boxes in power gain? The local bmw guy said it would end up eith 294cv ???
the only reason for me to do this is to keep my warranty instead off buying an external tune box (wich can be remooved too if needed) without worries. I reaaly would like to see what are the power gains from that in a before/after dino approach... I fear that it will result in only a marginal 10hp gain...
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M-Sport line has the M-Sport caliper and pads, just not M-Sport rotor... right? It's still some improvement over non-M-Sport line brakes.
There's 3 brake options for the M-sport line. There's the standard brakes (which may or may not have better pads than other lines, I don't know), the m-sport brake option which has bigger rotors and better calipers painted blue, and m-performance brakes which are the same as the optional m-sport brakes in terms of improved caliper and rotor size except the rotors are slotted and dimpled and the calipers can come in red, orange or yellow.

The various upgrades will do very little for you on the street other than look cool. On the track they'll be more resistant to fading.
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There's 3 brake options for the M-sport line. There's the standard brakes (which may or may not have better pads than other lines, I don't know), the m-sport brake option which has bigger rotors and better calipers painted blue, and m-performance brakes which are the same as the optional m-sport brakes in terms of improved caliper and rotor size except the rotors are slotted and dimpled and the calipers can come in red, orange or yellow.

The various upgrades will do very little for you on the street other than look cool. On the track they'll be more resistant to fading.
Thats why i want to put mine in a track and see if i like it... otherwise... no upgrades...
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yeah... maybe not bad at all, except for the fact here in Brazil, land off the crazy Dilma Roussef it costs arround 6000 USD... how much do they cost there?
I hope Barack Obama continue to spy petrobras end everything else here and to spread elsewhere all the damm things those bastards are doing to ruin our country with theyre retrograde, antiquate utopic socialist ideas
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So is the Blue optional M Brake system the same size caliper as the standard brakes without the option? Am I able to order the M Sport brake pads separately and place them in my brakes calipers to stop quicker? Or are the sizes completely different. I am not asking about the M Performance Brakes that come as aftermarket purchase. i am talking about the M Brakes and the standard brakes that come with the car.
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