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Old 05-26-2013, 05:54 PM
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Question What to do with my 09 335i with 89000 miles.

I have a tough decision to make. My car is now at 89000 miles. We bought the car in 2011, oct. my wife drives far for work daily. Basically, 30000 miles In a year and a half. I had to roll over money from my other car when I bought this one. I still owe 27000 on the car. I guess my question is, should I keep this car or trade it in and get something new. The dealership here said it would give me 16000 for it. I think that is very low. I do not know what to do. I will hit 100000 miles this year and the warranty will be over. How expensive is this car to main tame after the warranty is done?

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Old 05-26-2013, 06:07 PM
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I should mention that this is an 09 335
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:09 PM
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I mean have you had any problems so far? You might have gotten a solid winner. But there are things like turbos, wastegates, exc. that can break the bank.

I got 27+ a few k for one with mods and 56k on it so yours seems about right in my op. Try carmax maybe they'll hook you with a few k more some poeple get lucky in that regard I know I have twice.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:13 PM
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:18 PM
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27 seems like a lot but it would still take quite a bit to make that 11k difference up in problems... The real question is if you had a major failure can you get access to 2-8k? turbos would be like 3-7 depending on the dealer/indy, injectors are a big deal regardless of where you get it done so you've got some thinking to do.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:20 PM
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What to do with my 09 335i with 89000 miles.

If you didn't buy it new dont keep it past warranty. You don't know what the previous guy could've done to it (or didn't do) for it to be a problem later on


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Old 05-26-2013, 06:21 PM
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If you didn't buy it new dont keep it past warranty. You don't know what the previous guy could've done to it (or didn't do) for it to be a problem later on


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Why is that? If he's been trouble free this long and maintaing it right, it isn't unreasonable to assume he got a good car.
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:43 PM
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I have a tough decision to make. My car is now at 89000 miles. We bought the car in 2011, oct. my wife drives far for work daily. Basically, 30000 miles In a year and a half. I had to roll over money from my other car when I bought this one. I still owe 27000 on the car. I guess my question is, should I keep this car or trade it in and get something new. The dealership here said it would give me 16000 for it. I think that is very low. I do not know what to do. I will hit 100000 miles this year and the warranty will be over. How expensive is this car to main tame after the warranty is done?

Can't be serious....

You already know what maintenance for certain issues is.

If you're worried, trade for a new Accord. There. Peace o'mind.
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Old 05-26-2013, 07:59 PM
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Don't know what your finance is like but that's a lot of miles to put through, spending on maintenance is cheaper than getting a new car and depreciates in 2 years.
You can get a base X1 for $30k.
My car has 143k miles.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:07 PM
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I would personally keep it and pay it off. 11 stacks will make a big difference on the next car you trade up too. "Balloon payments"...no thanks.
Put that extra money aside saved on payments for repairs and scheduled maintenance. Sell it once its paid for, then.. buy a new car or keep it.

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Old 05-26-2013, 08:13 PM
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turbos would be like 3-7 depending on the dealer/indy,
If you are paying 3-7k to rebuild a couple of turbos, you are getting royally screwed.

The rebuild kit sells for $49 on ebay.

Removing and installing turbos isn't a difficult job.

A turbo isn't that complex, and can be rebuilt using nothing more than some wrenches and a bench vise.

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Old 05-26-2013, 08:21 PM
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It pays to do your research, shop around, and learn how to fix things on your own.

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My range is spot on for the cost to replace them, plenty of sites have backed that range up...

It's also easy talk when you've probably spent years practicing... I'd love to hear the same flyby confidence if this was your first time ever touching a car.
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Old 05-26-2013, 08:51 PM
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wow your dealer offered you only 16k that must be a joke, i hate these animals who like to rip people money.
I had the same problem as you with my 335i 2007 and decided to keep it. Now i have 160k miles on it (i bought it with 28k) i never had any major problems with it so assume your is 2011 you can keep it for 2-3 more years you'll never have problem (bmw is best car)
For maintenance is better to find some shops where mexicans works some of them works very well and charge 3 times cheaper than dealer.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:12 AM
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My 2009 335xi is sitting at 95,000 miles. I'm planning on keeping it as long as it remains reliable and until it starts costing me more in repairs than a new car would in depreciation.

So, if I was sitting there with a 2009 with 89k, I'd do what I did a couple of months ago when facing the same situation. I'd change the plugs, filters, oil, ATF, differential fluids, transfer case fluid, coolant, brake fluid, and PS fluid. And then I'd keep enjoying the car.
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:28 AM
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What to do with my 09 335i with 89000 miles.

16k is low. Have you looked up the book value?


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Old 05-27-2013, 08:33 AM
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Agreed. I looked up the value on NADA, and the trade-in value for a 2009 335i in ROUGH condition is about $16k. If it is in clean condition, it should be worth about $20k (trade-in). This is assuming average options. Full retail value on this car is about $23k.

I think the dealer does not really want this car. But OTOH we have no idea as to the condition or history of the car.

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Old 05-27-2013, 08:53 AM
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i would keep the car, 11K will hurt you bad, you drive too many miles, no matter what car you get you will be in same situation mileage wise in few years. good luck.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:37 AM
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Based on the miles you drive you need to keep it. Trading a car in is almost universally a terrible financial decision. It is the same sort of thinking that leads people to maintain a car at a dealer every after the warranty expires.

So, if you like the car keep it. Price the parts that you think may need to be replaced an fund a friend or a good, cheap mechanic you can trust.

If you want to sell, get some mcguires and a cheap orbital buffer and clean the car, print a carfax, take some pics and throw it on Craigslist. Sell it that way and you will be ahead 7-10k over trade in. Amazing what a clean car, good pics and proactive selling can do. Last 3 cars I sold his way were sold in 1-3 week and I got near top dollar.
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My range is spot on for the cost to replace them, plenty of sites have backed that range up...

It's also easy talk when you've probably spent years practicing... I'd love to hear the same flyby confidence if this was your first time ever touching a car.
If you're replacing turbos, you're definitely getting ripped off. They're rebuildable for a relatively low cost.

As for confidence, I started at zero, just like everyone else. Anyone can learn this stuff and save themselves a lot of money at the shop.

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If you're replacing turbos, you're definitely getting ripped off. They're rebuildable for a relatively low cost.

As for confidence, I started at zero, just like everyone else. Anyone can learn this stuff and save themselves a lot of money at the shop.

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Its not ripped off if its the going rate for dealers and indy's, its ripped off if you have the skill set to fix it. Would it be safe for me to say to someone they're getting ripped off on financing/ lease rates because they don't have an 800+ credit score?

Those skills take time to acquire along with trial and error, hardly something that can be done in a weekend/day for someone going in cold turkey with noting but DIY's.
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That is a tough area to be in. Not many folks talking about their 100K + mile BMWs with twin turbos. I also have a 2009 335i with 40K now. At this point in time, it's hard to believe with the way it runs, that I will have any more issues...but I did have some between 29K and 37K. They were not major though. New coils, injectors, and plugs. Power seat, seatbelt extenders, oil housing gasket leak and wastegate actuator update all done under warranty. I know that I would much rather have an inline 6 than a FWD 6 to fix and BMW makes some of the best engines around. I am also not going to wait on the "lifetime" transmission fluid joke and change it at 50K. I am dealing with my wife's Altima transmission now at 116K ($2500.00 rebuilt) and already did timing chain and guides as well as pre-cat (proprietary Nissan only part) and EGR valve (did myself). About $2500 bones dropped. But, for my car history experience, is par for the course. My GMC 1500 truck had transmssion and differential failure at 120k and cost me $4500!!! Most reliable trucks my A$$!!! Each car has specific issues that occur around the same time for everyone. So far, this car hasn't had any major issues after they fixed the HPFP issues. The waterpump will go out from 70-100k it looks like and is pricey to replace but easy to do. I would call around to some indy BMW shops and ask them what they've seen and how much they charge for this and that. At least inform yourself better. Highway miles are good. Change that trans fluid and coolant. Not sure about brake and PS fluid. I've never done that and had cars over 300K with neither issue. My fiend thinks keeping the windows clean solves / prevents everyting so you might as well do that to!

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Old 05-29-2013, 08:00 AM
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Thanks for all of the advice. I think the wife and I will keep and enjoy the car for now.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:38 AM
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The most important thing is not to compound one financial mistake by making another. You said you had to roll over money from your other car when you bought this one. I assume that means you brought negative equity to the deal, in another words, debt from the other car, which made this deal more expensive.

Do yourself a huge favor - whatever it takes, pay off this car, and bring yourself to a situation where you owe nothing on it. Then, you'll be able to negotiate for your next car free and clear of any previous debt. Otherwise, you're a giant target for a dealership to abuse you and leave you in a terrible financial situation.
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Thanks, that was my delima. We usually keep cars for ten plus years. When we got the car it had 54000 miles on it. I did not realize that we would put so many miles on it in the first year and a half, 30k+. My thoughts were to go back to a vehicle that we new about and has great reliability (accord or Avalon). We'd pay that off ,get back even then buy another bimmer. Probably not another 335i. The roads around here are brutal.
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Thanks, that was my delima. We usually keep cars for ten plus years. When we got the car it had 54000 miles on it. I did not realize that we would put so many miles on it in the first year and a half, 30k+. My thoughts were to go back to a vehicle that we new about and has great reliability (accord or Avalon). We'd pay that off ,get back even then buy another bimmer. Probably not another 335i. The roads around here are brutal.
Assuming you have the sport package, change your shocks to Koni FSDs and switch to non-run-flat tires the next time it needs them. That should calm things down nicely.
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