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Old 08-25-2004, 02:53 AM
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Failings of the iPod integration

In my opinion, BMW and Apple missed a trick here:
1. System not compatible with SatNav.
2. iPod solution does not display Artist or Track name.

I purchased a new X5 with SatNav and CD changer. I would be happy to lose the CD changer and have an iPod dock if that is possible but the documentation is unclear. In any event, having all the iPod music avaiable without reference to the Track details (Artist, Title) is far from ideal.

I think the best solution for me would be to compile 6 audio cd's with my playlists on them (say 6 x 20 songs) - and this would have to do.

The idea of a computer in the car with a 16:9 LCD display seems wasted. Considering how well they integrated the Bluetooth on the phone this seems far from ideal - especially as Apple is a forward thinking computer company (OK I do own a Mac). I have a Nokia 6310i and even receive the SMS texts on the onboard computer.
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Old 08-25-2004, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by nascar
In my opinion, BMW and Apple missed a trick here:
1. System not compatible with SatNav.
2. iPod solution does not display Artist or Track name.

I purchased a new X5 with SatNav and CD changer. I would be happy to lose the CD changer and have an iPod dock if that is possible but the documentation is unclear. In any event, having all the iPod music avaiable without reference to the Track details (Artist, Title) is far from ideal.

I think the best solution for me would be to compile 6 audio cd's with my playlists on them (say 6 x 20 songs) - and this would have to do.

The idea of a computer in the car with a 16:9 LCD display seems wasted. Considering how well they integrated the Bluetooth on the phone this seems far from ideal - especially as Apple is a forward thinking computer company (OK I do own a Mac). I have a Nokia 6310i and even receive the SMS texts on the onboard computer.

what do you mean "Considering how well they integrated the Bluetooth on the phone "..their bluetooth system isn't so great, it is barely available!
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Old 08-25-2004, 07:57 AM
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Their Bluetooth works very well with my 6310i and with my wifes Nokia 6600 (though the Nokia does not push the phonebook through).

Why do you say it is barely available?
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Old 08-26-2004, 01:05 PM
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In my opinion, BMW and Apple missed a trick here:
1. System not compatible with SatNav.
2. iPod solution does not display Artist or Track name.

I purchased a new X5 with SatNav and CD changer. I would be happy to lose the CD changer and have an iPod dock if that is possible but the documentation is unclear. In any event, having all the iPod music avaiable without reference to the Track details (Artist, Title) is far from ideal.

I think the best solution for me would be to compile 6 audio cd's with my playlists on them (say 6 x 20 songs) - and this would have to do.

The idea of a computer in the car with a 16:9 LCD display seems wasted. Considering how well they integrated the Bluetooth on the phone this seems far from ideal - especially as Apple is a forward thinking computer company (OK I do own a Mac). I have a Nokia 6310i and even receive the SMS texts on the onboard computer.
You can buy an adaptor $49.00 and have your ipod installed with Nav & CD changer, however you don't get use of steering wheel controls.
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Old 08-26-2004, 01:26 PM
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Agree. Apple and BMW really did drop the ball w/ their implementation of the ipod adapter. Fortunately, Dension is working on an enhancement to their icelink product that will display song/artist info on the LCD. And it will work on the x5. I don't know when they're coming out w/ it yet.
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Old 08-27-2004, 07:14 PM
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Agree. Apple and BMW really did drop the ball w/ their implementation of the ipod adapter. Fortunately, Dension is working on an enhancement to their icelink product that will display song/artist info on the LCD. And it will work on the x5. I don't know when they're coming out w/ it yet.
Very soon. Our Beta arrived this week from our engineers for bug testing.

Stay Tuned!
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Old 08-27-2004, 08:22 PM
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Very soon. Our Beta arrived this week from our engineers for bug testing.

Stay Tuned!

VERY is relative... Very as in a week, Very as in a few months? I know you PM'ed me saying a couple months, has that changed?
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Old 08-28-2004, 01:24 AM
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Will this be available in the UK?
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Old 08-28-2004, 01:57 AM
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Hay Guys
I know you have the X Series But Have you check out the new Sound Gate System.
I been using it in my M Roadster, It has a Three way switch that lets you choose the ipod or CD changer doing this all though the cars Audio System. The Audio shop set this up for me with the switch looking very stock. I have the Best of all the worlds, Use of the Radio, Cassette, or CD Changer and My ipod. The switch only controls the Chose of CD Changer or ipod. By the way the ipod is up front too.
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Old 08-28-2004, 02:09 AM
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What is the Sound Gate System (manufacturer etc). Searching on web but don't know enough specifics.
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Old 08-28-2004, 06:48 PM
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What is the Sound Gate System (manufacturer etc). Searching on web but don't know enough specifics.
Soungate.com They have the latest up dates.
As for the specifics, I had my Audio shop do the install they had the info needed
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Old 08-30-2004, 11:41 AM
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VERY is relative... Very as in a week, Very as in a few months? I know you PM'ed me saying a couple months, has that changed?
At this time, I am going to keep is as "very". The Beta has only been in-house for a few days and testing needs to be applied fully before a final product is shipped.

As soon as we get closer to a final release date, it will be posted on our website as well as the forums.
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Old 08-30-2004, 11:47 AM
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Hay Guys
I know you have the X Series But Have you check out the new Sound Gate System.
I been using it in my M Roadster, It has a Three way switch that lets you choose the ipod or CD changer doing this all though the cars Audio System. The Audio shop set this up for me with the switch looking very stock. I have the Best of all the worlds, Use of the Radio, Cassette, or CD Changer and My ipod. The switch only controls the Chose of CD Changer or ipod. By the way the ipod is up front too.
Good luck
Mike T
A switch can easily be fabbed up to use either the CD Changer or the ice>Link, but this will require a little bit of electrical experience. Some audio shops have performed this already on some BMWs (and some Range Rovers).

Also, depending on the vehicle's iBus will depend if this feature will work for you or not. Some vehicle are very tough for additional peripherals to be added and requires a reinitialization phasing (which can be done at home, not as complicated as it sounds) to recognize the additional device.
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