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Old 06-10-2013, 07:01 AM
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BMW to Ferrari F1 engine swap?

I have a friend who has this Ferrari F1 engine for sale. It was used to win Schumacher his championship.

I was thinking I could buy this and put it in my E90. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.

Would there be any problems doing this? Would it throw a code? Maybe if I get a code reader?
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Nah, should be fine. If you get a CEL, a little electrical tape over the light will fix'er right up.
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Absolutely no problem. I have a friend who once replaced an engine in a lawnmower, and he had no issues whatsoever.
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After reading that post I had to make sure that I was'nt at the rice burner forum.
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make a gocart and build it around the engine, buy a lot of tires

now that would be fun,
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Re: BMW to Ferrari F1 engine swap?

Rotfl rotfl !!! Those replies are epic guys! Especially the lawn mower post hahaha!

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With an engine that powerful I'll definitely need to introduce some downforce.

I was thinking about a sweet spoiler and ground effects.

How about this? Will these fit on my E90?
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Should be as easy as pie.
Hoist the old engine out, if the wiring harnesses become an obstruction just use a jigsaw to cut it loose.
Once your stock engine is out, lift the transplant 6 feet and 10 inches up in the air - use a precision measuring tool, the height must be exact; and just drop it into the engine bay. The laws of gravity will work their scientific magic to mate your new transplant to the chassis.
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I read the other posts and immediately thought "Great, now I HAVE to get a new 4 series when my lease runs up because this forum will become nauseating to read!!!"
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I have a friend who has this Ferrari F1 engine for sale. It was used to win Schumacher his championship.

I was thinking I could buy this and put it in my E90. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.

Would there be any problems doing this? Would it throw a code? Maybe if I get a code reader?
I think you're about to bite off more than you can chew. Maybe you should start with a less complex project and work up to this--something simple like stuffing a 6.0L Camaro engine under the bonnet. Apologies if you already have mad skills for this job, in which case yeah, go for it, should be buttah!

Any idea what you'll do for an exhaust? F1 mills are not exactly street-legal when it comes to decibel levels.

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I read the other posts and immediately thought "Great, now I HAVE to get a new 4 series when my lease runs up because this forum will become nauseating to read!!!"
Nah, it'll be fine until the last batch of the bought-when-new crowd exits the building. Then, there won't be enough snark left to balance the mix.
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Any idea what you'll do for an exhaust? F1 mills are not exactly street-legal when it comes to decibel levels.
I was thinking something like this.
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I think you're about to bite off more than you can chew. Maybe you should start with a less complex project and work up to this--something simple like stuffing a 6.0L Camaro engine under the bonnet. Apologies if you already have mad skills for this job, in which case yeah, go for it, should be buttah!

Any idea what you'll do for an exhaust? F1 mills are not exactly street-legal when it comes to decibel levels.

Nah, it'll be fine until the last batch of the bought-when-new crowd exits the building. Then, there won't be enough snark left to balance the mix.
The noise problem can easily be solved by recording the sound of the engine, inverting the phase of the recording 180 degrees and than make a CD of the sound that you play on the cars sound system whenever you are driving. The 180 degree phase reversal will cancel the noise from the engine.

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The noise problem can easily be solved by recording the sound of the engine, inverting the phase of the recording 180 degrees and than make a CD of the sound that you play on the cars sound system whenever you are driving. The 180 degree phase reversal will cancel the noise from the engine.

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Or you can simply play the CD upside down - same cancellation effect.
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What's the plan after? Selling it to buy a van for your family? Maybe swap it with someone for an M3? Or better, a 328i.

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What's the plan after? Selling it to buy a van for your family? Maybe swap it with someone for an M3? Or better, a 328i.

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Hey I have a 328 to trade for an M3!
Oh come on, Bemo, is that the best you can do? I wouldn't take anything less than a Chevy Aveo in trade for my 335. Now 3ismagic# is concocting a Ferrari-powered, monster-winged E30 (it's an E90 with 2/3ds of the weight taken out) with the biggest baddest most killerest pipes--I mean, PIPES! it's got PI-I-I-I-I-IIIIIIIIPES!!! (Bill Cosby, anyone?)--and you're not at all interested in swapping the 5GT for it?

@captain: Active sound control--stellar idea! Plus, with that annoying wide-open shriek cancelled out, you could layer in the synthetic soundtrack of a proper motor...something like a 1980 Mercedes Benz I5 turbo diesel.
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I think you need to figure out a few things to make sure the swap is truly feasible and, most importantly, done right. They include:
- Will there be enough space left for a truly epic supply of nitrous? You can never have too much of an edge, after all, especially if you want to autocross.
- The engine looks nice but bland. What it truly needs to function is to be bathed in a rich neon glow. So you need to light the engine bay, bonus if the lights pulse when you play your Rage Against the Machine MP3s.
- You're going to have to paint the car, I mean, really, putting a Ferrari engine into a blue car is just wrong. You don't need to get the fancy paint, though. A few cans of spray paint will do it. Just touch up any questionable spots with as many stickers--especially anything NOS, Rally Pig and Hello Kitty--that will fit and lots of neon.
- Rebadging. The importance here can not be understated. You have a BMW Ferrari. You need as many of both badges that you can possibly wedge on that thing. Throw on some Type R, GT-R and Audi rings while you're at it.
- Everyone knows that an F1 engine will not work without an F1 wing. Seriously. And don't even think about anything understated here. Go loud and proud.

If you address all of these, you should be golden. Or rather, crimson. And remember, when you show up to an autocross in your truly awesome super-ride, just ignore those middle-aged dudes with their 20-year old Miatas. They're just jealous they can only afford to race in a girl's car.
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What's the plan after? Selling it to buy a van for your family? Maybe swap it with someone for an M3? Or better, a 328i.

There's the ticket.
Shhhhh. Now you didn't hear this from me, but I'm hoping to do some street racing.
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