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Tough break (again) David, I am looking forward to your novel about the ups and downs of your Bimmer since you got it awhile back. It sounds like it's been interesting at the very least, and I am envious of how well you've seemed to keep your cool throughout, well done, sir!
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Re: grey spray paint all over my F30 - not sure if I want to just cry or kill someone

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Not at all. I actually found out about this work being done by stepping into wet paint on my steps when I was trying to leave my apartment to get breakfast one morning.
As a landlord and property owner my opinion is that you are completly entitled to everything mentioned in this thread including lost wages. This in nothing short of negligence on your landlords behalf . I am sorry that this has happened to you.

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Tough break (again) David, I am looking forward to your novel about the ups and downs of your Bimmer since you got it awhile back. It sounds like it's been interesting at the very least, and I am envious of how well you've seemed to keep your cool throughout, well done, sir!
Thanks, appreciate the support! It is coming soon. I'm bound to hit 10K next month and I NEED to write a post summarizing the first chapter of Beatrice's life
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As a landlord and property owner my opinion is that you are completly entitled to everything mentioned in this thread including lost wages. This in nothing short of negligence on your landlords behalf . I am sorry that this has happened to you.
Thank You sir, that is reassuring. I will try and bill the landlord accordingly although going by the past experiences with him I don't have high expectations. We have an automatic gate leading into the parking lot. The problem with it is it closes after about 45 seconds from the time it is open NO MATTER if there is something still going through or not. Like a mover's truck for example.... or a child... there were a few instances when people's cars got crushed (the gate is strong enough to cause a major dent). As far as I can tell the landlord kept rejecting all claims saying basically that people are idiots and can't use the gate..... well, there are instances where you start moving through the damn thing and something is blocking your car so you HAVE TO stop. We live on a busy street. I'm pretty sure the retarded gate doesn't even meet some standards for this sort of "appliance" but the situation is unlikely to change until an incident serious enough for a lawsuit takes place.
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I would be super pissed with that overspray. What a complete dumbass thing to do, spraying paint near cars.

You need to find a new place to live.
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You need to find a new place to live.
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Yeah like Beden said you need to find a new place to live. Sadly, it's much easier said than done, and I think that's one reason landlords get away with bs like this. Either way the place you're living sounds like a law suit waiting to happen with gates that operate like that. What's going to happen when a child gets caught in one?
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:23 PM
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I know how you feel but here what you need to do!!
1.wash the car use the 2 bucket system
2.clay it
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after these steps all that over spray paint should be gone.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:26 AM
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I'd bring it to the detailer you get referred to and treat your ride to a nice full detail. Send the bill to the landlord and deduct from your next payment to him.

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Not sure why you're waiting to get this done. If at all possible you should have started having someone work on this the same day that it happened. If you can afford to buy/lease a 335i then I would imagine that getting a day off of your job should not be insurmountable.

I had something similar happen with a company owned car a few years ago. It was parked on the other side of the street next to a neighbor's fence. He was trying to touch up the fence for a party he was having and sprayed the fence (from the opposite side) with oil based stain. I had overspray all over one side of the vehicle.

As soon as I noticed it I immediately pulled it into my driveway to cool it off and went to work on it with a mild soap and a lot of elbow grease.

It all came off easily but if you let it sit there curing onto the clear coat you are only making this worse.
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Not sure why you're waiting to get this done. If at all possible you should have started having someone work on this the same day that it happened. If you can afford to buy/lease a 335i then I would imagine that getting a day off of your job should not be insurmountable.
I'm not waiting to get this done - the car is going in today. I can't explain the details of my job to you (because it would take a book) but it's not as easy as you think. Anyway - thanks for your input - again, it's reassuring to hear from people who had a similar problem before and were able to fix it.
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Not sure why you're waiting to get this done. If at all possible you should have started having someone work on this the same day that it happened. If you can afford to buy/lease a 335i then I would imagine that getting a day off of your job should not be insurmountable.

I had something similar happen with a company owned car a few years ago. It was parked on the other side of the street next to a neighbor's fence. He was trying to touch up the fence for a party he was having and sprayed the fence (from the opposite side) with oil based stain. I had overspray all over one side of the vehicle.

As soon as I noticed it I immediately pulled it into my driveway to cool it off and went to work on it with a mild soap and a lot of elbow grease.

It all came off easily but if you let it sit there curing onto the clear coat you are only making this worse.
I agree. I also use a spray detailer after every time I wash my cars, something like Meguiar's Ultimate Spray Detailer. This helps to take stuff like paint (even the tough yellow spray paint they line the roads with), bird crap, tar, sap, bugs, hard water spots, etc., off of the surface without causing damage.
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I agree. I also use a spray detailer after every time I wash my cars, something like Meguiar's Ultimate Spray Detailer. This helps to take stuff like paint (even the tough yellow spray paint they line the roads with), bird crap, tar, sap, bugs, hard water spots, etc., off of the surface without causing damage.
Prima Hydro is a great detailer, just spray it on as you dry the car. I use it every time I dry the car.
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You east coast guys crack me up. 2 hours is like driving to Santa Monica for dinner.

Seriously, leave at 6 a.m, be there when he opens at 8, be back after lunch!
Hehehe... 2 hours on NJ Turnpike between 6am and 8am.... I wish you knew what you're talking about - that would most likely turn into 4 hours. Especially with the current construction between Philly and Bergen County. Believe me - I LOVE driving (I average 32K miles a year) but this trip is simply more of a PITA than fun.
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You cross the 405? I thought it was an impenetrable barrier of space and time....
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Those paint specks would get off by using BMW Betalink cleaner. One panel at a time.

Those are too many specks, in too many panels, in too much an area, to use clay bar only...
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I know how you feel but here what you need to do!!
1.wash the car use the 2 bucket system
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after these steps all that over spray paint should be gone.
I'd say the chances that clay gets dried spray paint off is unlikely.
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It can. Don't worry. But do try to keep it out of sunlight and heat because heat makes the paint bake on the car. Also, try to get it done ASAP. The longer it sits the more it bonds to the surface thus requiring more aggressive correction to get it off. You need to get with fest sponsor Phillip Yiu at Detailer's Domain and have him do the job (New Jersey). He is a true expert for paint correction. A bad detailer will wreck havoc on your black car.

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Re: grey spray paint all over my F30 - not sure if I want to just cry or kill someone

I hope this worked out for you. Because the FIRST thing I would have done is notify my own insurance company, and take it to the drive in claims adjuster. That would give me a documented objective paper trail, and legal recourse if the landlord or painter didn't live up to their promises. (Or even worse, if the detailer stripped off your clear coat or left you with a million swirls).

Your insurance company would coordinate the repairs, make sure they are done properly, stick you in a rental, and subrogate against the landlord's / painter's carriers.

Instead, you fighting this battle on your own, with very little leverage. If you need to get an attorney involved, its going to come out of your own pocket, not Geico's, Allstate's or Flo's.

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Thank You sir, that is reassuring. I will try and bill the landlord accordingly although going by the past experiences with him I don't have high expectations. We have an automatic gate leading into the parking lot. The problem with it is it closes after about 45 seconds from the time it is open NO MATTER if there is something still going through or not. Like a mover's truck for example.... or a child... there were a few instances when people's cars got crushed (the gate is strong enough to cause a major dent). As far as I can tell the landlord kept rejecting all claims saying basically that people are idiots and can't use the gate..... well, there are instances where you start moving through the damn thing and something is blocking your car so you HAVE TO stop. We live on a busy street. I'm pretty sure the retarded gate doesn't even meet some standards for this sort of "appliance" but the situation is unlikely to change until an incident serious enough for a lawsuit takes place.
This is ridiculous. A sensor cable can be fitted to the door that will prevent it from touching anything except the ground. I dealt with a door like that. After the cable was installed, the installer stood right under this heavy metal door and told me to push the down switch. After making sure he was serious i did it. The door stopped about half an inch from the top of his head and rolled back up.
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This is ridiculous. A sensor cable can be fitted to the door that will prevent it from touching anything except the ground. I dealt with a door like that. After the cable was installed, the installer stood right under this heavy metal door and told me to push the down switch. After making sure he was serious i did it. The door stopped about half an inch from the top of his head and rolled back up.
It's not a vertical gate that you are thinking about. It's a gate leading to a building parking lot that has two wings - they swing open left and right.
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The building owner replied. Looks the painter is aware of the problem... maybe he was hoping I wouldn't notice?! In any case he is probably going to pay for whatever needs to be done. Thanks for your support guys, I really hope clay and some compound can do the trick!
Try clay first. Straight lines, never circles. Go to autopia.com for some very professional guidance. Great guys over there that can help you but I am fairly 100% positive that will come off.
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It's not a vertical gate that you are thinking about. It's a gate leading to a building parking lot that has two wings - they swing open left and right.
should be even easier in that case, same type of solution, sensors would prevent closing if there is an object between them. it's not expensive either, few hundred dollars. think of a supermarket door
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Progress report: I decided to go with a local detailer. After thoroughly discussing the problem they seemed completely confident they were able to take care of it. As far as I can tell they did. I would say they got 95% of the paint off the car and the original paint looks almost like new. There are some swirl marks but honestly I believe one more coat of hand waxing will make them invisible, they are showing only in full sun and I was expecting worse knowing that they would be using a machine tool to polish. They did not use compound anywhere on the body panels, they had to use it on both front and rear bumper as these were the most affected areas. They also had to use razor blades on the windows as there was simply no other way to get the spray paint off.

With all that I am.... 95% happy. There are some grey specks visible at close distance (like 3 inches away from the car) in all crevices like between the rubber and the upper part of the doors, etc. Those are difficult to get into but still I was able to get some of the stuff out myself using bug & tar remover. Some specks are still visible on the chrome frame of the grille and on the grille bars - I'll have another go at those tomorrow or if I can't get it off the car will go back to the detailers with more specific instructions. Some is also left on the plastic parts of the mirrors on both sides. Honestly when I think about it now writing this post I think I am less than 95% happy.... maybe these are details at this point and a lot of people may say I am crazy but the simple truth is these are driving me nuts and the state of my - however you look at it - brand new car car was changed by somebody else's mindless action. Even more so that it was so easy to avoid IF the ****in' painter or the damn landlord had some brains!!! Normally I am not a person that agonizes about stuff like that but I don't feel like letting this one go.

The cost so far was $235. I sent it to the landlord and he said the painter will pay for it. I'll give it a few days, if there is no check I will make it clear to the landlord that I don't care to hear from the painter. This is his responsibility, he gave us no warning and he hired someone who obviously had no idea what the hell they were doing. Maaan is this FRUSTRATING!!!!

BTW my insurance is aware of the situation. I did not make a claim because I wasn't sure if there was a claim to make (because the total cost of taking care of the problem might be lower than my deductible, which is $500) but in case the landlord doesn't cooperate my insurance will have a base to go after his insurance (at least that's what I was told).
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