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Old 06-12-2013, 12:15 PM
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2013 NAV system: NOT impressed

Ok, so I have been driving the wheels off my new 2013 328i. The NAV system really sucks(IMO). My 2012 Toyota Camry was much easier & gave better route choices.

Everytime I enter a destination, all my options are way off the best route availible. Today I put in my trip to BMW Climb to the Clouds in Lincoln NH, and it gave me a route that was 70 miles more than any Goggle maps route.

I've been told if I e-mail my prefered route to my car through Goggle, it wont take; car nav will pick it's own best route. I feel like I wasted my money on the Tech PKG now. I have to carry google maps sheets when I travel every time.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:32 PM
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:38 PM
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Stupid question (I suppose you already thought about it): did you check that you don't have any conditions such as avoid toll ways, avoid free ways, or something similar?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:42 PM
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Stupid question (I suppose you already thought about it): did you check that you don't have any conditions such as avoid toll ways, avoid free ways, or something similar?
TY thegandalf. I will double check, but the route it chose has lots of toll roads. It did give me 2 alternative routes, but they were even worse. Maybe it has avoid secondary roads or something like that....
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:19 PM
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I understand exactly where you are coming from, and it's why I avoided nav. I would love to have an integrated system, but for this much money I want a system that can update on a regular and free basis...step in Google...however, BMW doesn't like this option, even though the competitors love it.

Given that, when I got to C2C I use a custom path (designed in Google) and use my droid. You could use your smartphone and then have this as a backup?
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:42 PM
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Ze germans know better.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:48 PM
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If the Camry has a similar NAV to Corolla, that NAV looks like a aftermarket mod someone bought and stuck into the center console. There's no comparison to that and BMW's infotainment system.


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Old 06-12-2013, 01:52 PM
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Ze germans know better.
LOL....

It's the Ultimate Driving Machine. So the GPS is configured to send you on longer routes so you enjoy the driving experience more.

See it makes sense if you don't think about it.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:29 PM
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For me in the Seattle area routing from the BMW Nav is very good 90% of the time. It's the only Nav I've used that routes using my shortcut home. But I have occasionally seen the strange routing, as with all such systems.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:23 PM
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:38 PM
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I'm also very disappointed in the nav. Sometimes it'll update the route for traffic and go in a huge loop. I honestly don't think it's very smart in routing. Obviously I can't compare the different routes but every time it changes the route I always feel like it's taking me through a very long roundabout way.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:34 PM
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Make sure you select Fastest Route, not Efficient Route. Efficient Route does some really weird sh...I mean, stuff.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:53 PM
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If the Camry has a similar NAV to Corolla, that NAV looks like a aftermarket mod someone bought and stuck into the center console. There's no comparison to that and BMW's infotainment system.
You mean as compared to BMW's "We stuck half an Ipad into the top dash of your 3-series and called it a infotainment screen" approach?
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I've had a lot of issues with this sort of thing. Its too bad they don't just pair up with Google Maps and then the maps would be continuously updated, you could use satellite images, and you would get nice efficient routing.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:37 PM
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I'm also very disappointed in the nav. Sometimes it'll update the route for traffic and go in a huge loop. I honestly don't think it's very smart in routing. Obviously I can't compare the different routes but every time it changes the route I always feel like it's taking me through a very long roundabout way.

I agree, I'm barely using the car's nav and have switched to using Google Navigation on my Note II.

I'm shocked at how bad the directions are, how many streets are just missing, house numbers that it won't let me enter, etc. What I find the funnies is how when driving on the largest tollway in IL, it consistently tells me to hop off into the local lanes, pay a toll, and then get back on the tollway
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The real problem is the us maps supplier. Driving in Europe I didn't have the slightest problem with the nav. Get to the us and the nav can be really sketchy. BMW needs to ditch their US maps OEM supplier.


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My personal favorite is driving down a city street or highway and she tells me to "prepare to go straight".


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I understand exactly where you are coming from, and it's why I avoided nav. I would love to have an integrated system, but for this much money I want a system that can update on a regular and free basis...step in Google...however, BMW doesn't like this option, even though the competitors love it.

Given that, when I got to C2C I use a custom path (designed in Google) and use my droid. You could use your smartphone and then have this as a backup?
I am debating deleting nav as well from my next vehicle because of these issues. My iPhone whether I use google maps or the paid navigon app is night and day better then the nav in my e92.


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I didn't get the NAV. I got the HUD and larger display :P

Still, even though it suggests some nutty routes I like having something that at least shows me where I am and where my destination is and I can take it from there.
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This is exactly why I refused NAV on my F30..

In Canada you cant even get traffic on the BMW Nav.



Hopefully by the time I get my next BMW they have this worked out and the car just integrates with the more powerful iPhone / Android smart phones.

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Agree that big screen and HUD could be a driver to go with the Tech Package. It's a nice display and if you're into HUD, BMW's execution of the feature is elegant. But at $3100? I think with a more attractive price point they'd get a few more folks to pull the trigger who are on the fence about the nav in general. I say with this with absolutely no knowledge of BMW's margins, development costs etc., but it seems like this is high-profit componentry.
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Thanks again to all for your input; think I will go with Furby's advise and use my i-Phone and google maps.

Do love the HUD and big center screen, but in general, most auto NAV systems need to catch up with Google.

If I could just plan my own route on google and send to my vehicle, that would work too.
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Damn.. Why didn't anyone say how bad the NAV was before I got my car..

Everyone just said how amazing it is that it re-routes them with real traffic info, etc.

I've been unimpressed ever since I first used it over here in Houston. I no longer rely so much on the routes it give me but focus more on just looking at the map.
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If I could just plan my own route on google and send to my vehicle, that would work too.
Your car can be coded for that. I had mine coded. I tried it - it's a complex process, but it works.
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