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Old 06-14-2013, 10:01 AM
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Hello wonderful folks!

In the market for a convertible and Z4 caught my eyes. Really love the styling. Could you please tell me:

1. difference between 35i vs 35is? Is 35is worth extra money?
2. what is the discount off MSRP I could expect for a 2013 model? I see one at local dealer going for 70K MSRP and dealer is marking it down to $67.5K at this time. The sales gave me another $500 off. how much more could I get?
3. What other things should I be aware of?
4. If you want to receommend any dealer/good sales, please feel free.. I don't mind buying from out of state (I live in Seattle) and have it shipped.

Thank you for any help you could provide!

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Old 06-14-2013, 03:19 PM
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35i has 300 hp and 300 lb. ft. I think the 35is has 330/330. I would offer 65K. Dealerships vary of course and so do negotiating skills. I'm not very good at it. Others will be able to tell you more about the differences. I'm sure many can be found out by the "Build Your Own" section on BMW site. Good luck.
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:28 PM
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Hello wonderful folks!

In the market for a convertible and Z4 caught my eyes. Really love the styling. Could you please tell me:

1. difference between 35i vs 35is? Is 35is worth extra money?
2. what is the discount off MSRP I could expect for a 2013 model? I see one at local dealer going for 70K MSRP and dealer is marking it down to $67.5K at this time. The sales gave me another $500 off. how much more could I get?
3. What other things should I be aware of?
4. If you want to receommend any dealer/good sales, please feel free.. I don't mind buying from out of state (I live in Seattle) and have it shipped.

Thank you for any help you could provide!

J.
Just my opinion, but hard to rationalize the almost $10000 bump in price between the 35i and the 35is. As mentioned more torque and hp, something you may never use. Just ordered a 28i with sports pack and cold weather and couldn't jump to the 35i even though finances would let me.
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:38 PM
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:03 PM
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Just my opinion, but hard to rationalize the almost $10000 bump in price between the 35i and the 35is.
Huh? Where'd you get $10k difference? Go on BMWUSA's Build-Your-Own website and option a 35i and a 35is exactly the same and you'll come up with a $5,300 difference in list price. Must compare apples to apples, not mangoes to qunices as you did.

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Old 06-14-2013, 05:53 PM
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MSRP 35i=$55950
MSrP 35is=$64800
Apples to Apples., Less than 10K but certainly in the range
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Old 06-14-2013, 08:50 PM
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Guess it takes some people a while. You're comparing the list prices of the base model 35i and 35is. BUT, many features are supplied standard on the 35is which are available only at extra cost on the 35i. The M Sport package is a good example. Standard (included in base price) on 35is, add $2,500 to the base price to get the same package on 35i. And so on. Add 'em all up and you end up with two very similar vehicles with a list price difference of $5,300. The vehicles are identical with the exception of:

1) slightly different body panel features
2) brakes are somewhat beefier on the 35is
3) exhaust is modified on 35is for tuned tone
4) ECU tuning map in 35is provides 10% additional HP and a bit more torque (exact same engine hardware)

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Old 06-14-2013, 09:25 PM
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Thank you for your input, gentleman!

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Old 06-15-2013, 01:46 AM
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Not worth the extra money for the "is" the 35i has more power than you will ever need !

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Old 06-15-2013, 05:48 AM
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Do yourself a favor and test drive both if you can. Depending on what kind of driving you do, you may find the 35is "harsher" than the 35i. Also, consider wheel sizes. I went with 18" on my 35i simply for comfort -- but many say that if you change the RFT for non-RFT, it doesn't matter as much. If you lease, you may not want to go through the expense of changing to non-RFT.
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:27 PM
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is $3000 off MSRP a good deal for a 2013 35IS?
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:32 PM
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What is the MSRP?
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:34 PM
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I got about $3500 of my 2012 35i but I ordered it so I did not have much bargaining leverage.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:04 AM
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What is the MSRP?
70K and they're selling it for 67K.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:26 AM
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You know about the Ultimate Drive Experience, don't you? Attend the event at your local BMW dealer and you will be sent an Ultimate Driving Allowance code by email worth $1,000 off on new 2013 or 2014 BMWs. Is this doable for you?
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:14 AM
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I agree - test drive both and decided which better suits your needs. BMW Tucson ask for the General Manager -Greg Polsen and tell him Bill F. referred him. A closer alternative is Long Beach BMW in CA. Again ask for Eric - Service Manager and he will direct you to the right person - mention my name. Good Luck!
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Old 06-16-2013, 11:31 AM
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Thank you, Gentlemen!

I do not know about ultimate driving experience! Good tip!

Also powerwise....do you feel 28i is that much weaker than 35i/35is?

I'm looking to buy this car for my dad..he also wanted a convertible. Power is not the main concern for him but I don't want 28i to feel that much slower since it's I4...
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Old 06-16-2013, 12:21 PM
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There is nothing wrong with this car in the 28i configuration. Remember they use the same engine to power much bigger cars such as the X3 and the 5 series.

It's still plenty of power plus should return some great fuel economy numbers.

I bought an "is" but I remember thinking more than once while I bombed down the Italian motorways that this will be the last time I ever get to use the power of this car in such a manner.
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Old 06-16-2013, 12:25 PM
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There is nothing wrong with this car in the 28i configuration. Remember they use the same engine to power much bigger cars such as the X3 and the 5 series.

It's still plenty of power plus should return some great fuel economy numbers.

I bought an "is" but I remember thinking more than once while I bombed down the Italian motorways that this will be the last time I ever get to use the power of this car in such a manner.
Thank you! That's very comforting... Now I just need to find a 13 White/Red/no woodtrim!
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:15 PM
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You should search through the "Ask a Dealer" forum for more advice on buying a new Z4. $3K off MSRP sounds like a bad deal to me, but who knows? As for the price difference, if you want things like the M sports package and the other adds that are standard on the IS, the jump isn't that bad. If you don't care about those, the price difference is way too much. However, there may be o0ther things included so read the fine print. In 2006 when I bought my first Z4, I bought the 3.0si because in addition to the slight power boost, it came standard with premium audio and great looking wheels (see signature picture) among other things.

I would recommend a potential third option - you can buy certified pre-owned Z4's with minimal mileage if you broaden your search. Many people treat the 2 seater as a garage queen and turn them in at lease end with very low miles. Rather than buy new, I got a loaded 3 year old 35I Z4 with less than 10K miles on it. Searched all over the country and found exactly what I wanted in Florida with a reputable BMW dealer. Had a friend check it out, bought it and had it shipped. I have bought 2 Z4's new (one for my son) and 2 CPO and both CPO's drove like new and have been a great deal. I may never buy another brand new Z4 again.

FYI - That turbocharged 4 banger is actually a pretty sweet engine which provides great power for efficient gas economy. It is more powerful than the original 2.5 Z4 and (I think) just as powerful as the 3.0i of the mid-2000's.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:34 AM
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Thank you, Z4Luvr! Ok, here's what a dealer offered me...5% off MSRP for '14 28i with Cold Weather + Technology package. Do you think Sports Package is a must (love the aerodynamic kit...etc.)? I mean as far as transmission goes, is the only difference being that the sports package offers that extra paddle on steering wheel?

Kind of don't want to fancy it up too much because it will end up costing almost like a 35i...

$53,075 - MSRP
-$2,654 - 5% discount
$50,421 - Selling Price
$4,941.26 - Sales tax
$369 - Estimated DMV Fees
$150 - Documentary fee
$55,881.26 - Total out the door

What do you think?

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Old 06-17-2013, 07:45 AM
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No. Sport package also provides for sport seats, which are seriously more comfortable than regular seats. Do a sit comparo to see for yourself. Totally worth it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:07 AM
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Thank you, Jparnes1!

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Old 06-17-2013, 08:43 AM
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For what it's worth...bought my '11 3.0 CPO with 17k miles on it back in March for right around 37k.
Premium pkg, 6 speed.
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:47 AM
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For what it's worth...bought my '11 3.0 CPO with 17k miles on it back in March for right around 37k.
Premium pkg, 6 speed.
Wow awesome! What's included in premium package? Based on that...I should get this one for $39K?

Also should I run Carfax on these Certified cars? I don't have a Carfax account...

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