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Old 06-18-2013, 11:03 AM
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Thanks. I'll be moving on to an f32 as soon as they are actually out so hopefully I should have smooth sailing.

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Let me get this straight after all these issues you're considering a F32?? None of my biz but if I were you i'd run the other direction at least for 2-3 years (Chill down) then maybe return but to purchase the 1st year of the F series....I don't know man.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:07 AM
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I want my time back that I spent reading this thread, only to find out that you're buying another BMW. Wow!
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I want my time back that I spent reading this thread, only to find out that you're buying another BMW. Wow!
As do I, someone did post the definition of insanity, no?
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:57 PM
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Let us know when you find out what's wrong with your car. FWIW, I've had an E90, E92 and an E93, all with the N54 motor and I haven't had an issue with any of them. Either I'm lucky or you're not.

Still at the dealer. No word. They were going to look at it yesterday. Didn't hear anything all day today. Left a message with the SA but haven't heard back yet.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:59 PM
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I want my time back that I spent reading this thread, only to find out that you're buying another BMW. Wow!
No refunds on either of your times. All sales and reads are final.

As I mentioned in the other thread, I love the cars, just not the luck I've had with the N54 engine. The N55 apparently has a much better track record.
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Let me get this straight after all these issues you're considering a F32?? None of my biz but if I were you i'd run the other direction at least for 2-3 years (Chill down) then maybe return but to purchase the 1st year of the F series....I don't know man.
People say the N55 has a good track record. I just can't get as excited about a G37s. Interestingly though, they are quite a bit cheaper. If there weren't the HPFP issues I would have almost considered this a reliable car as I wouldn't have had all the limp modes I've had. That's supposed to have been remedied now. So they say.
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I got an email back from BMW today. It was pretty much a form response with my name inserted at the beginning, 335 inserted in the space for the model and a bunch of blabber about how they appreciate my comments and how my comments will help them build better cars. Pretty useless. I wasn't looking for a reward, but at least a slightly more personalized email.

Still nada from anyone at the dealer other than the SA calling to see what problems I'd had.
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Well, the initial word is that its a low pressure sensor of the fuel system which is somewhat related to the HPFP recall that they already did. I'll know more tomorrow.
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Exactly beden
The OP has the same thread going in the F30 forum. I know that some people had HPFP problems and some had multiple problems. Many people had no problems whatsoever. We have an '08 535xi and a 2011 335is, both with N54 engines, and both with zero problems (knock on wood). I wonder if the people with no problems drive their cars differently, maintain them differently, or have dealers that were on top of fixing glitches before we had a problem?
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Re: I've never had a car as unreliable as my BMWs

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The OP has the same thread going in the F30 forum. I know that some people had HPFP problems and some had multiple problems. Many people had no problems whatsoever. We have an '08 535xi and a 2011 335is, both with N54 engines, and both with zero problems (knock on wood). I wonder if the people with no problems drive their cars differently, maintain them differently, or have dealers that were on top of fixing glitches before we had a problem?
Incorrect. They are not the same thread. This thread is about the bad experience I have had with my car. That thread was trying to learn about the new engine. Entirely different points of the threads although there are some overlapping topics amongst the posts.

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Incorrect. They are not the same thread. This thread is about the bad experience I have had with my car. That thread was trying to learn about the new engine. Entirely different points of the threads although there are some overlapping topics amongst the posts.

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Thing is, the engine isn't new. It's the same engine that's been in the E9x since 2010. From what I see, the kind of problems you are having are virtually non existent on the N55 motor.
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I have had 2 335's with the N54 and never a problem. Both tuned, both running 30% E85. I can't get excited about the N55 though. Not very exciting on the top end of the power band and now it's in a wierd looking coupe.
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Thing is, the engine isn't new. It's the same engine that's been in the E9x since 2010. From what I see, the kind of problems you are having are virtually non existent on the N55 motor.
I guess I meant 'new to me/my car' engine. I know its been out a few years and was happy to find out over in the other thread that its had a good record so far. Just wanted to see what I'd be in for with the N55 and it sounds promising.
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I have had 2 335's with the N54 and never a problem. Both tuned, both running 30% E85. I can't get excited about the N55 though. Not very exciting on the top end of the power band and now it's in a wierd looking coupe.
Yea, I hear they aren't as tuneable, but I won't be doing that anyway, so its no big deal to me. I'll gladly take the reliability over modability.
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I have a 2011 with the n55 and it has gone through one fuel pump so far. But as I understand it there was a subsequent redesign around 2012 that seems to have solved the issue (and i havent read of any fuel pump issues with F series cars yet).

As far as why BMWs aren't as reliable as they could be, I think this thread answers the question. They manage to make cars that are desirable enough that people overlook the other faults and buy them anyway. So, they don't have much motivation to change. Not to say that they don't take quality seriously, but it's not necessarily one of the core "brand promises" as it is with Toyota/Lexus. Personally, I've never had some faults with the 2 BMWs I"ve owned but never anything that really bugged me.

Aso interesting that when you watch UK car shows or read UK magazines they always take the quality and relaibiltiy of German products as a given. Even VW, which here is considered bottom of the pack, is regularly praised over there as in "being a VW it'll be faultless...". I suppose it has to do with the fact that they get Italian and French cars that make German cars look great comparatively..
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As far as why BMWs aren't as reliable as they could be, I think this thread answers the question. They manage to make cars that are desirable enough that people overlook the other faults and buy them anyway. So, they don't have much motivation to change. Not to say that they don't take quality seriously, but it's not necessarily one of the core "brand promises" as it is with Toyota/Lexus. Personally, I've never had some faults with the 2 BMWs I"ve owned but never anything that really bugged me. .
Yea, interesting perspective. I guess that seems to be sort of the stance I'm taking. My parents of course, can't appreciate this line of thinking since they aren't the one enjoying the car. They are just the ones hearing me say that its back at the dealer again.

It also almost seems kind of odd when people suggest buying a Lexus to get a reliable car. Almost as if its unreasonable that I should expect for BMW to make a reliable car because they are just assumed not to be and are kind of given a pass for it. Sort of as you suggest above.
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There are reports of limp mode in F30's, especially with the cars in M-Sport package
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786475
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OP's experience DOESN'T come close to my experience and I have owned over 12 BMWs and not one of them to include my E93 335 has stranded me with the exception of a non stock built up 325i with cam and supercharger with headers, etc so that one is not a surprise.
I currently have 58K miles on my 335 and the only thing that has ever failed was the glove box solenoid.
HPFP replaced per BMW SI and it was fine before and after.
Two M3's one I still own and bought from the dealership at 90K miles now has never has an issue.
I could go on but the point is your one experience is not close to anything I have experienced and to color ALL BMWs as unreliable is totally incorrect.
This is a forum where people come for threee reasons usually:
to brag how terrific their car is
to learn to do something or find a indy wrench
to complain how bad their car is

All forums are like this. Go visit any forum and see if this isn't repeated.
Also some cars are just dogs, there is no logic to it they are just dogs and seem to never treat the owner right no matter how well the owner treats the car.
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OP's experience DOESN'T come close to my experience and I have owned over 12 BMWs and not one of them to include my E93 335 has stranded me with the exception of a non stock built up 325i with cam and supercharger with headers, etc so that one is not a surprise.
I currently have 58K miles on my 335 and the only thing that has ever failed was the glove box solenoid.
HPFP replaced per BMW SI and it was fine before and after.
Two M3's one I still own and bought from the dealership at 90K miles now has never has an issue.
I could go on but the point is your one experience is not close to anything I have experienced and to color ALL BMWs as unreliable is totally incorrect.
This is a forum where people come for threee reasons usually:
to brag how terrific their car is
to learn to do something or find a indy wrench
to complain how bad their car is

All forums are like this. Go visit any forum and see if this isn't repeated.
Also some cars are just dogs, there is no logic to it they are just dogs and seem to never treat the owner right no matter how well the owner treats the car.
Sounds like the OP got the dog
I'm glad things have gone well for you and its good to know that people can go that problem free with their cars.
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Tonight I went around a corner at 5mph because that's all the faster the car would go in limp mode.
I had a 1994 3251 coupe- very little problems. Then I purchased a 2004 X5. My son totaled it. So I bought a 545i with 28K miles. Now it has 70K miles and every problem imaginable occurs. Im done with Beemers. My 1998 Toyota 4 Runner gives me no trouble. go figure.
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