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Old 06-17-2013, 09:22 AM
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Looking at a used 335i...

I'm looking to buy a used 335i... 2009 and up. I'm just learning about the dreaded fuel pump problem. What should I be looking for when buying a used 335?
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:50 AM
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nothing really, the 335i problems are relatively unpredictable. You have an extended warrenty on the HPFP and turbo wastegates. The only thing I would look for is a good maintnence record. Also I would look into the throttle body cleaning process, if you are unable to do this or pay for this job to get done ever 50K miles or so, then look elsewhere.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:56 AM
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What is it and what's the cost? Guess maybe I should look into the 328s?
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:59 AM
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Its cleaning out the throttle bodies, which requires you to take off the intake manifold and walnut shell blast out the corbon build up.. or you can use some carbon cleaner and elbow grease to eat the carbon build up. N52 have their on issues that require just as much maintnence. I'd suggest doing your homework first
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:02 AM
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Any car you look at, look at the carfax and the service history for the car. A dealership can provide that for you.
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Carfax is not always accurate though. Accidents could not be reported therefore never show up on car fax. Dealer records would be much more reliable


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I really like this car but worried about the maintenance cost, fuel pump, etc. I'm used to jap cars that are basically maintenance free but after driving a 2010 335i I'm in love with its performance. Any help suggestions advice greatly appreciated
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Best advice I can give you, the choice is your's really, but if you decide to take the plunge, become an active member in the forum community. If not this one than another, because of the wealth of knowledge you can find here. Pick up some tools and try DIYs and routine maintenance. It's a great skill to have regardless of the car you pick. In addition, You can have pretty much any problem diagnosed by other members and fixed for much cheaper than a BMW dealerships troubleshooting. Good luck and I hope you make the right decision... buy the car


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Does it have a warranty? As was mentioned earlier, turbos and fuel pumps have extended warranties. I just purchased my '10 in March, and set aside savings to deal with maintenance issues. These cars seem to be hit and miss, but the rewards are great! Spark plugs need to be replaced more often, and the walnut blasting will have to be done eventually. (This is the decarbonizing of the head). If the car has any weak points, a CPU tune will make them apparent. If you want reliabiliity, look at N52 powered 328's, although they will feel wimpy power-wise after driving the 335.
After all of the negatives of dealing with the 335's quirks, here are the pluses: for $500 I was able to add a tune to the car that puts the acceleration up in stock muscle car terrirtory, but it still gets 20/30 MPG, looks classy, handles well, and is more comfortable.
Non-BMW drivers don't know the difference between a 328 or a 335, so it surprises the heck out of them when you can pull away.
The road feel never gets old.
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I'm looking to buy a used 335i... 2009 and up. I'm just learning about the dreaded fuel pump problem. What should I be looking for when buying a used 335?
A maintenance service plan.
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If it's still available, and since you're in NJ, take a look at the 2011 I just returned off lease. It's at JMK. Has barely 22000 miles, in absolutely perfect condition. never tracked or modded. Best car I ever owned.

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If it's still available, and since you're in NJ, take a look at the 2011 I just returned off lease. It's at JMK. Has barely 22000 miles, in absolutely perfect condition. never tracked or modded. Best car I ever owned.

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I own a 2011 328i and must say this car is built like a Russian Brick S*** House.Best car I ever owned,19,000miles and it puuuurrrrrssss,I will put this car in my estate when I die,never gonna get rid of it
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If it's still available, and since you're in NJ, take a look at the 2011 I just returned off lease. It's at JMK. Has barely 22000 miles, in absolutely perfect condition. never tracked or modded. Best car I ever owned.

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Ill def check out inventory . What color was it?
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I'm looking to buy a used 335i... 2009 and up. I'm just learning about the dreaded fuel pump problem. What should I be looking for when buying a used 335?
The issues with these 335s come in around 30k where carbon builds up. That can be an unexpected, uncovered maintenance item. Plugs are needed every 45k, sometimes sooner but should be covered if you buy a maintenance plan. I believe the fuel pump issue is mostly taken care of, unless the vehicle you're looking at hasn't gotten the latest, and for some luck, hasn't failed. Overall they seem reliable, although definitely not one of BMW's best for reliability. How it made Ward's top 10 engines, I have no idea, unless they didn't examine the engine internally after 30k miles.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:56 PM
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can these cars last around 100k miles?
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can these cars last around 100k miles?
They'll last 1,000,000+ mi if you fix 'em.

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The last is real important - tells a story....
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:00 PM
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Does it have a warranty? As was mentioned earlier, turbos and fuel pumps have extended warranties. I just purchased my '10 in March, and set aside savings to deal with maintenance issues. These cars seem to be hit and miss, but the rewards are great! Spark plugs need to be replaced more often, and the walnut blasting will have to be done eventually. (This is the decarbonizing of the head). If the car has any weak points, a CPU tune will make them apparent. If you want reliabiliity, look at N52 powered 328's, although they will feel wimpy power-wise after driving the 335.
After all of the negatives of dealing with the 335's quirks, here are the pluses: for $500 I was able to add a tune to the car that puts the acceleration up in stock muscle car terrirtory, but it still gets 20/30 MPG, looks classy, handles well, and is more comfortable.
Non-BMW drivers don't know the difference between a 328 or a 335, so it surprises the heck out of them when you can pull away.
The road feel never gets old.
I agree I have had great reliability with the n52 engines. They drove the same at over 100000 mls as they did with 40000 mls.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:30 AM
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To me its simple...if you are set on a BMW, and reliability is your #1 concern, you go with the 328. Your aren't guaranteed to be problem free, but the stats indicate they are the least likely to have issues.

If you are willing to trade (or risk) some reliability in exchange for additional fun, you go with the 335 and set aside some $$ for potential issues.

Personally, I went conservative and went with a 2009 328...Im hoping the next generation of turbos prove to be more reliable, in which case I'll opt for the additional fun factor when I make my next used car purchase.
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I had an '04 M3. After driving it for a year, and hearing my wife complain about the ride, I agreed to sell it. I bought an ''06 Lex IS 350 and went around telling everyone that Lex had built a 'better BMW'. When the E 92 335 came out I found that I had been lying to all my friends; only BMW builds a better BMW. If you can't feel the difference between cars, don't go Bimmer. I have had this car almost 6 years, and I have NEVER kept a car for more than 2-3 years. Unfortunately the 'New Car Bug' is starting to create an itch, so it will probably go down the road.
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I had an '04 M3. After driving it for a year, and hearing my wife complain about the ride, I agreed to sell it. I bought an ''06 Lex IS 350 and went around telling everyone that Lex had built a 'better BMW'. When the E 92 335 came out I found that I had been lying to all my friends; only BMW builds a better BMW. If you can't feel the difference between cars, don't go Bimmer. I have had this car almost 6 years, and I have NEVER kept a car for more than 2-3 years. Unfortunately the 'New Car Bug' is starting to create an itch, so it will probably go down the road.
Wow, that must have REALLY hurt.
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Wow, that must have REALLY hurt.
Not really; with Mr. Dinan's original tune (now replaced with Stage 2) the 335 has been perfect. It has the power of that era's M3 and a comfortable ride. Yes, it does float a bit when pushed, but it has been a perfect street car.

Kurgan, stretch your mind back to those early days of the E92; you talked me into getting my tune from 'your' shop in Sac. Anyway, I was driving real race cars in those days, so the compromises that the M3 had to make to be 'all things to all people' didn't appeal to me.
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They'll last 1,000,000+ mi if you fix 'em.

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  • Intake valves walnut shell blasted
  • Maintenance record, complete

The last is real important - tells a story....
He obviously hasn't begun to research because if he did he'd know HPFP is fixed and covered for 10+ years... Shell blasting is butt cheap 250-800 bucks if you think thats an astronomical amount Japanese cars are where the op should stay.

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Not really; with Mr. Dinan's original tune (now replaced with Stage 2) the 335 has been perfect. It has the power of that era's M3 and a comfortable ride. Yes, it does float a bit when pushed, but it has been a perfect street car.

Kurgan, stretch your mind back to those early days of the E92; you talked me into getting my tune from 'your' shop in Sac. Anyway, I was driving real race cars in those days, so the compromises that the M3 had to make to be 'all things to all people' didn't appeal to me.
Yeah even with 168 rated tires I notice around 110+mph it would start that floaty stuff.

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To me its simple...if you are set on a BMW, and reliability is your #1 concern, you go with the 328. Your aren't guaranteed to be problem free, but the stats indicate they are the least likely to have issues.
Also least likely to do a lot of things I always take shots sorry

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Not really; with Mr. Dinan's original tune (now replaced with Stage 2) the 335 has been perfect. It has the power of that era's M3 and a comfortable ride. Yes, it does float a bit when pushed, but it has been a perfect street car.

Kurgan, stretch your mind back to those early days of the E92; you talked me into getting my tune from 'your' shop in Sac. Anyway, I was driving real race cars in those days, so the compromises that the M3 had to make to be 'all things to all people' didn't appeal to me.
No, I meant going to the Lexus from the E46M3. The Dinan tune really made the 335i for me, with the oil cooler, you are correct.
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Also least likely to do a lot of things I always take shots sorry


No need to apologize, its a fair point. If nothing else, at least its a nice looking car!
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No need to apologize, its a fair point. If nothing else, at least its a nice looking car!
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