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Old 06-19-2013, 05:31 AM
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F10 LED angel eyes light bleeding, do you think it is fixed in LCI model?

One thing I always hated about the F10 AE's is that you could see the light bleeding from the base of the rings. From a far it looks like an illuminated circle with a blob at the bottom...almost as if it is crying haha. The F01 LCI, F25(X3), E92 LCI, E70 LCI etc all don't do this and they came after the F10/F07 which do it. Do you think BMW has fixed this for the 2014 or does it have the same headlights for the xenon models. I'm guessing it is because BMW placed the LEDs at the base of the ring on the F10/F07.

Here is a pic, you can see it at the 5 and 7 oclock position.




You can see here the F25 has much more consistent illumination

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Old 06-19-2013, 12:26 PM
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:45 PM
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Never noticed it but you're right. My sign has it. Does the F10 seem brighter than the X3 though?
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:14 PM
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Never noticed it but you're right. My sign has it. Does the F10 seem brighter than the X3 though?
I think it's the focus and lighting conditions... I tried to find F10 and F25 pics with similar lighting conditions (cloudy sky in both pics). X3 seems brighter in person (to me).
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Comparing the F10 and the F25 in my driveway, the F10's halo are brighter. What you guys called bleeding doesn't bother me at all.
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Old 06-19-2013, 03:39 PM
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I believe the LEDs in the AEs are being driven a bit harder (thus brighter), esp when compared to my '11 528i AEs which look quite evenly lit (although dimmer).

Come to think of it, can coding drive them harder? I do not mind the "bleeding edge" look of the brighter LEDs...
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:44 PM
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F10 LED angel eyes light bleeding, do you think it is fixed in LCI model?

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I believe the LEDs in the AEs are being driven a bit harder (thus brighter), esp when compared to my '11 528i AEs which look quite evenly lit (although dimmer).

Come to think of it, can coding drive them harder? I do not mind the "bleeding edge" look of the brighter LEDs...
Does your 2011 528i have xenons? Looks like I'm the only one that thinks the F10 angel eyes look awful.


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What you guys called bleeding doesn't bother me at all.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:29 PM
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F10 LED angel eyes light bleeding, do you think it is fixed in LCI model?

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Bigger fish to fry.
What are you frying? Haha. Are you responsible for resolving customer complaints at BMW or something? It's just a topic of discussion...


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Bigger fish to fry.

I concur there are much bigger issues that bother me more than the "bleeding" lights
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Does your 2011 528i have xenons? Looks like I'm the only one that thinks the F10 angel eyes look awful.


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No, just halogens.

Yeah, I used to think the Angels had grown passe since BMW already had them for so many years. But that all changed when Audi had their epiphany and used LEDs for their DRLs, what a difference and a clear upgrade from the dim, pee-yellow incandescent bulbs all mfrs. had been using for DRLs up to that point. Suddenly all other premium cars followed suit but regardless of how and in what shape/style they made their DRLs, they all smacked of a "me, too!" copying of Audi's brilliant innovation. And THEN, BMW upgraded their yellowing AEs to nice white LEDs and put a whole new spin on Angel Eyes and, in my humble opinion, upstaged Audi at their own LED DRL game.
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Comparing the F10 and the F25 in my driveway, the F10's halo are brighter. What you guys called bleeding doesn't bother me at all.
Good to know, I feel the F10's LED's seem brighter on the roads as well, which might just explain the bleeding-edges.

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I believe the LEDs in the AEs are being driven a bit harder (thus brighter), esp when compared to my '11 528i AEs which look quite evenly lit (although dimmer).

Come to think of it, can coding drive them harder? I do not mind the "bleeding edge" look of the brighter LEDs...
This is interesting to me as I always notice varying Angel Eye brightness on F10's. It seems many older models have a dimmer more yellow-y Corona LED while 2013's or perhaps 2012's got a much brighter, super white style which seem to thus have the "bleeding" effect.

Kar Don: I commend you man, your eye for detail seems to even shame mine! I guess I sort of noticed it but always thought it may have been by design or it just hasn't bothered me as I assumed it was just a part the nature of such brightness. I'll have to look closer next time.
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I notice this on F10s, too. I always think it makes the car look like it has tears or watery eyes

The full LED option on the LCI F10 will definitely solve this, not sure about the standard lights.

FWIW, I always thought the F30/F25 had the brightest LED DRLs, followed by the F10 and X5 LCI.
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I notice this on F10s, too. I always think it makes the car look like it has tears or watery eyes

The full LED option on the LCI F10 will definitely solve this, not sure about the standard lights.

FWIW, I always thought the F30/F25 had the brightest LED DRLs, followed by the F10 and X5 LCI.
Haha, thats exactly what I think of... watery eyes! Agree with your assessment completely. The X3 LED AEs almost make me look away they are so bright.
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Good to know, I feel the F10's LED's seem brighter on the roads as well, which might just explain the bleeding-edges.



This is interesting to me as I always notice varying Angel Eye brightness on F10's. It seems many older models have a dimmer more yellow-y Corona LED while 2013's or perhaps 2012's got a much brighter, super white style which seem to thus have the "bleeding" effect.

Kar Don: I commend you man, your eye for detail seems to even shame mine! I guess I sort of noticed it but always thought it may have been by design or it just hasn't bothered me as I assumed it was just a part the nature of such brightness. I'll have to look closer next time.
The varying brightness may be because there are 2 intensity levels for the LEDs. Daytime running lights checked on idrive with main headlights off gives you full intensity. Headlights on OR parking lights on gives you reduced intensity.

My eye for detail, haha. It's a blessing and a curse. I think Audi's new LED "tubes" have the most consistent lighting. I believe it is because they have a more opaque appearance while BMW uses clear tubes.
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The varying brightness may be because there are 2 intensity levels for the LEDs. Daytime running lights checked on idrive with main headlights off gives you full intensity. Headlights on OR parking lights on gives you reduced intensity.

My eye for detail, haha. It's a blessing and a curse. I think Audi's new LED "tubes" have the most consistent lighting. I believe it is because they have a more opaque appearance while BMW uses clear tubes.
Lol, I know what you mean. I consider my rampant OCD to be a huge blessing and curse as well.

Yeah the new Audi LED's almost don't even look like lights, almost like a solid "paint" due o the opaqueness.
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I know a guy in San Diego that can hook you up with some new angel eyes!
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I kinda always thought they were by design too. It makes them look like extra bright/aggressive I guess.
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