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View Poll Results: Should we split the Z3/Z4 forum?
Yes- Make two forums for us 120 78.43%
No - Leave the Z3 and Z4 discussion together 26 16.99%
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:04 AM
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Separate the forums
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:20 AM
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The problem with separating the forums, and the reason why we decided against it about 8 years ago is the search results. If there is an E85/E86 board, and you search for some topic, you may not find results. The results would be in the "old" Z3/Z4 combined board. I assume we will still have that problem if we separate them now. No one wanted that when we talked about this last.

I do not agree about separate M forums. There is not enough traffic to support that.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:08 PM
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Absolutely two separate forums. As a Z4 owner, I have ZERO interest in the Z3 as it has few of the parts of the Z4 and is a completely different car. Also the fact that many who start a thread do not post which vehicle their thread pertains to, making for a lot of unnecessary mouse clicks.

Edited to add: This is the only BMW forum where Z3 and Z4 are lumped together. There is probably a good reason for that.

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Old 07-03-2013, 03:38 PM
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Out of the last 40 threads listed on the Z3/Z4 forum, 25 related to Z3. That is about 62%. Is that a high enough percentage to support a separate Z3 forum? I would like to think so.
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:31 PM
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Please do split them!
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:10 AM
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Should we split the Z3 and Z4 into two forums? Feedback wanted

Split it up. I own a z3c and I don't care about the z4 because I will never own one. That's my 2cents. Thanks


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Old 07-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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[QUOTE=JonM;7683954]The problem with separating the forums, and the reason why we decided against it about 8 years ago is the search results. If there is an E85/E86 board, and you search for some topic, you may not find results. The results would be in the "old" Z3/Z4 combined board. I assume we will still have that problem if we separate them now. No one wanted that when we talked about this last.

.......and the longer you wait, the larger the problem! Which is more difficult, sorting through all the unrelated search results or having to search the "old" combined set if you don't find it in your proper category?
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:18 PM
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Should we split the Z3 and Z4 into two forums? Feedback wanted

I vote to separate them.


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Old 07-11-2013, 05:00 AM
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so no go, or?
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:13 AM
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Ok, split them..
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:03 PM
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Absolutely two separate forums. As a Z4 owner, I have ZERO interest in the Z3 as it has few of the parts of the Z4 and is a completely different car. Also the fact that many who start a thread do not post which vehicle their thread pertains to, making for a lot of unnecessary mouse clicks.

Edited to add: This is the only BMW forum where Z3 and Z4 are lumped together. There is probably a good reason for that.
Yes, the reason I never made a habit of coming here when I first started hitting Z3 forums is because they aren't separated. I quickly got attached to a forum that keeps them separate. I found them being grouped annoying.
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Should we split the Z3 and Z4 into two forums? Feedback wanted

Hey moderator, change it, you won't.


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Old 07-12-2013, 07:08 AM
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We can try them split.

But, be aware - and I do not think you guys with less than 100 posts fully appreciate this, there are over 10 years of E85 and E86 posts (tens of thousands) and you will not find any of them in search results in the new E85/E86 forum. You will have to go back to the Z3 forum to search.

There were good reasons to keep the forums together, chief among them was the vast knowledge base of the very senior Z3 owners who posted prolific, high-value content applicable to both models. But, most of the people from the "inner circle" have moved on and aren't here any more.
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Re: Should we split the Z3 and Z4 into two forums? Feedback wanted

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We can try them split.

But, be aware - and I do not think you guys with less than 100 posts fully appreciate this, there are over 10 years of E85 and E86 posts (tens of thousands) and you will not find any of them in search results in the new E85/E86 forum. You will have to go back to the Z3 forum to search.

There were good reasons to keep the forums together, chief among them was the vast knowledge base of the very senior Z3 owners who posted prolific, high-value content applicable to both models. But, most of the people from the "inner circle" have moved on and aren't here any more.
Understood. Perhaps a way to address this would be a sticky at the top of the new forum letting people know that searches for old posts prior to the conversion date (which would be specified) should be done in the old forum as well.

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Old 07-12-2013, 02:55 PM
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Z4/Z3 Forum Split

Please split! I love my Z4. Z3's are great roadsters as well. But I would like to be able to see just Z4 postings. If Z3 owners want to see what is being talked about click on the Z4 forum. I will also be checking out the Z3 forum on occasion to see what's going on.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:49 AM
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Z3 Coupe should have its own section. I have to use the search option to find current news for the Z3 Coupe. Annoying. Yet I know my Z3 Coupe is rare.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:14 PM
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Z3 Coupe should have its own section. I have to use the search option to find current news for the Z3 Coupe. Annoying. Yet I know my Z3 Coupe is rare.
You would be lucky to get 10 posts per month in a Z3 coupe forum.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:35 AM
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Both cars are in the family, but its like two siblings 10 years apart, lot a like, lots of differences. After reading everyone's thoughts I concur that separating them would make it easier for the Z3 speak and Z4 speak. But I will continue to read the Z3/Z4 posts alike, I enjoy seeing all the cars. And if I have something of value to share I will, if not you'll just get my humble opinion.

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Old 07-20-2013, 12:45 PM
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I've got a Z4/M Coupe scheduled to arrive next month for some followup rod bearing work (see how the coated bearings are holding up after his numerous track days in the past couple of years), VANOS rebuild and a head gasket; while the car's owner has a presence here and will likely post the pictures, I really don't ever see myself frequenting the Z4 forum if it was to be split up.

If there was helpful or anecdotal advice I could offer on the Z4/Z4M, I'd never see the thread, as my primary interest is with the Z3/Z3M versions. There's only so much time in the day to be spent cruising the various message boards.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:44 PM
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:20 PM
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Should we split the Z3 and Z4 into two forums? Feedback wanted

Yes SPLIT THEM.


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Old 07-22-2013, 09:19 PM
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It's been about a month. 79% would like to try a split. Ok lets split already and have two great forms.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:18 AM
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It's been about a month. 79% would like to try a split. Ok lets split already and have two great forms.

Tim is working on it, but was at Bimmerfest this weekend.

We will try it for a month and decide.

Pal's post on S54 water pump changeout is a good example of why we should not split them. We will see how it goes.
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Tim is working on it, but was at Bimmerfest this weekend.

We will try it for a month and decide.

Pal's post on S54 water pump changeout is a good example of why we should not split them. We will see how it goes.
Yes, pertinent to anyone with an 01/02 ///M Coupe or Rdstr too.

In a couple weeks (weekend of August 3rd), he'll be posting pictures of his car getting a new head gasket and some VANOS work; with any luck, there'll be a few shots showing my hands at work.
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