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Old 08-01-2013, 08:38 AM
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Visions you might have of you and Pam sailing along the countryside, top down as Gil Scott Heron blasts from the stereo, on your way to a wine country retreat will have to be done top up.
I have to disagree. The trunk with the top down has enough room for 2 weekend suitcases (read: the kind you store in overhead bins on planes). I've gone on week long vacations with this car and between the trunk and storing a few other items here and there, we do just fine. One of my pleasures with this car is driving top down and blasting the music on a nice summer day. With the premium sound package you have enough power to easily hear music.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:12 AM
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I have to disagree. The trunk with the top down has enough room for 2 weekend suitcases (read: the kind you store in overhead bins on planes). I've gone on week long vacations with this car and between the trunk and storing a few other items here and there, we do just fine. One of my pleasures with this car is driving top down and blasting the music on a nice summer day. With the premium sound package you have enough power to easily hear music.
Perhaps, I've never tried it, but the Boxster has space to spare, and at this price point and with the new version's increased refinement and better styling (over the last gen Boxster), I'd give it a hard look.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:00 PM
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Rob, I've spent time behind the wheel of both the Boxster and Cayman - top down, the Boxster has an awesome engine note - it's hard to beat and it feels right. Classic Porsche experience. Top up, it's droning and tiresome (IMO).

The Cayman always has the top up, so it's a mixed bag - personally, I think the Boxster is the more "sensible" of the pair - it's more fun, has more luggage capacity and is "less expensive" (a relative term). Note, there's an all new B/C pair and I've not driven either.

The Z4 will trounce both in terms of daily driving and all around practicality except in one area - luggage capacity. The new Z4 is even worse in that luggage space diminishes even more when the top's down. I HATE folding tin tops and for me it'd be a deal killer - they're heavy, complex, and take a lot of stowage space. Visions you might have of you and Pam sailing along the countryside, top down as Gil Scott Heron blasts from the stereo, on your way to a wine country retreat will have to be done top up.

I'd look at the all new Boxster if I were in this class of car - your wife has the right idea It handles better, has a proper ragtop and it holds more stuff. It's expensive, but you keep your cars a long time, so you'll get max fun out of it for years.
Yeah, you got that right! My car's coming up on its 11th birthday, and Pam's still driving one of the original Saturns, now 20 years old. (Lease??? what's that all about? )

We buy what we like and keep 'em. That's why it's such a big decision. I once described my car to the infamous TD, and he said "yeah, you better love that car, cause you're stuck with it" (stick, no moonroof, unusual color, etc)

I've strongly considered the Boxter, but Pam's definitely not a convertible kinda girl. Something about "black girl hair", yadda yadda. Also, I'm a bit of an audiophile, and I worry about the stereo acoustics of a top-up rag-top. Hence the beauty of the newer Z4s. Hard-top, but when I'm by myself in the beautiful AZ weather - top down white-boy hair is no problem!

I think I have to hear the drone in person. I remember when I first got my 325. For a long-time I drove with no stereo on, so I could listen to the engine as I went through the gears. The side benefit of the 325i at that time (vs the lovely 330 e46) was that I could more easily rev through the gears without violating too many traffic laws, and still hear that smooth as silk straight-6 drone on. Come to think of it, 10 1/2 years later, I still love that sound.

So maybe the Cayman would be like that. But maybe with no top-down option it would feel a bit claustrophobic.

Well, we're still a year out from making the decision. I am somewhat disappointed that the lower model is no longer an inline 6. I understand all the benefits of the turbo 4, but the inline 6 was a work of art. The bigger one is more of a gas guzzler, and heavy.

That flat six is looking better...
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:40 PM
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Yeah, you got that right! My car's coming up on its 11th birthday, and Pam's still driving one of the original Saturns, now 20 years old. (Lease??? what's that all about? )

We buy what we like and keep 'em. That's why it's such a big decision. I once described my car to the infamous TD, and he said "yeah, you better love that car, cause you're stuck with it" (stick, no moonroof, unusual color, etc)

I've strongly considered the Boxter, but Pam's definitely not a convertible kinda girl. Something about "black girl hair", yadda yadda. Also, I'm a bit of an audiophile, and I worry about the stereo acoustics of a top-up rag-top. Hence the beauty of the newer Z4s. Hard-top, but when I'm by myself in the beautiful AZ weather - top down white-boy hair is no problem!

I think I have to hear the drone in person. I remember when I first got my 325. For a long-time I drove with no stereo on, so I could listen to the engine as I went through the gears. The side benefit of the 325i at that time (vs the lovely 330 e46) was that I could more easily rev through the gears without violating too many traffic laws, and still hear that smooth as silk straight-6 drone on. Come to think of it, 10 1/2 years later, I still love that sound.

So maybe the Cayman would be like that. But maybe with no top-down option it would feel a bit claustrophobic.

Well, we're still a year out from making the decision. I am somewhat disappointed that the lower model is no longer an inline 6. I understand all the benefits of the turbo 4, but the inline 6 was a work of art. The bigger one is more of a gas guzzler, and heavy.

That flat six is looking better...
I don't think I'd buy any car with a convertible top if it isn't the wife's thing - of course, you might like it for those long summer nights whn you need to work out some issues

Looks like a Cayman would be a good bet, or perhaps - gasp - a 911. New Caymans may have more refinement - so try.

I'd also take a look at the new Corvette - why not?

Not sure what other two-seater coupes are in that price range, but whatever's available, check it out.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:29 PM
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Back to the topic, I believe Boxster sucks away a lot of potential z4 buyers.
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:53 PM
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:12 PM
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I don't think I'd buy any car with a convertible top if it isn't the wife's thing - of course, you might like it for those long summer nights whn you need to work out some issues

Looks like a Cayman would be a good bet, or perhaps - gasp - a 911. New Caymans may have more refinement - so try.

I'd also take a look at the new Corvette - why not?

Not sure what other two-seater coupes are in that price range, but whatever's available, check it out.
Late to respond, sorry.

well, I love the C6 corvette, but Pam thinks of them still in terms of the late 1970's-early 1980's stereotypes (course I was born in 1970 so I was quite fond of them back then). She will begrudgingly admit the C6 is a work of sheetmetal .. er.. make that fiberglass./carbonfiber ... beauty.

She would love a 911, but on a primary care salary, that would be a bit more commitment. 'Course that's 2 primary care doc's with no kids, living in Tucson, so probably quite doable.

We do both like the Z4's though.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:14 PM
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Old 08-22-2013, 08:15 AM
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Looked carefully at Boxster S and C7 Corvette before pulling the trigger on a Z4 35is.

Boxster S... Great handling and top end, plenty of trunk space, light responsive steering. BUT, a fabric roof, insufficient low end torque, myriad confusing switches (I like idrive).

C7 Corvette... huge improvement over C6, great interior, gobs of torque, looks like 458 at a glance, BUT, fabric roof, not avail until early 2014.
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:28 PM
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Looked carefully at Boxster S and C7 Corvette before pulling the trigger on a Z4 35is.

Boxster S... Great handling and top end, plenty of trunk space, light responsive steering. BUT, a fabric roof, insufficient low end torque, myriad confusing switches (I like idrive).

C7 Corvette... huge improvement over C6, great interior, gobs of torque, looks like 458 at a glance, BUT, fabric roof, not avail until early 2014.
After I sell my 2009 35i I will only consider 3 cars: 2014 35is, 2013/2014 Boxster S or 2014 C7 Corvette Coupe. Same 3 choices. It's a toss up right now.
No one here locally wants to look at a convertible in the 110 degree heat, so if someone on this forum could please step to the plate and purchase my pristine condition 35i that would be great. Thank You.

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Old 08-23-2013, 07:53 PM
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Exclusivity keeps it special. Those who don't know cars think its some exotic car. If its such a chicks car how come Ferrari, Mercedes and now jaguar are producing such similar cars. If you know a little about driving you don't need that much power or the manual. I have the 2.5 straight six with paddle shifters and 18 inch tyres, can make it drift in the dry and have so much fun with roundabouts and cutting through traffic. And yes you have to be able to live with a two seater or have a second car
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Exclusivity keeps it special. Those who don't know cars think its some exotic car. If its such a chicks car how come Ferrari, Mercedes and now jaguar are producing such similar cars. If you know a little about driving you don't need that much power or the manual. I have the 2.5 straight six with paddle shifters and 18 inch tyres, can make it drift in the dry and have so much fun with roundabouts and cutting through traffic. And yes you have to be able to live with a two seater or have a second car
I don't think anyone has ever mistake the E89 for an exotic haha. The BMW badge would be the first indicator that it is NOT an exotic.


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I've seen a very nice Z8 conversion done on a Z4 .Do this and drop a LS7 in it and exotic you have.
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Looks great from here.Would depend on builder.
There you go ...

http://www.carkitinc.com/carkit2.php?id=5

BTW, I am looking forward to i8 conversion kits.

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Right after this post I was driving down I75 and saw a hauler with a wrecked Z4.Most of the damage was front end.Bet a person could buy a salvage Z4 fairly cheep.
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:21 AM
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I couldn't agree more. This vehicle is a head snapper. I get huge compliments on this machine anywhere I go with it. The Z3 was a chick car look at what they built it against--- a Mazda Miata. The first gen Z4 looked like a truck ran into the trunk area. I have a '12 sapphire Black w/walnut leather and M sports pkg. It has roadster lines similar to '60's sports cars and when you line it up side by side with a Boxster and an SLK there's no comparison. The Boxster looks like a squashed bug and the SLK is more like owning a Cadillac very rich looking.
Is it expensive, perhaps but when you think about owning a vehicle for 8-10 years, and you look around at what is available what car day in and day out is going to give you a desire each time to drive it. Besides 39mpg@+70 on I-95 and mid grade; whats not to like. Only thing I've done to date is get a Windblox windscreen in smoke with the black rubber trim and it gives it a great look, (and yes it does work but you own a convertible so its not the same as roof up). Next move is to go with Dayton wire wheels all around.
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...It has roadster lines similar to '60's sports cars and when you line it up side by side with a Boxster and an SLK there's no comparison. The Boxster looks like a squashed bug and the SLK is more like owning a Cadillac very rich looking. ...
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I would call the Z8 exotic.Long debated topic exotic.I like what the top gear guys call hyper car.Exotic has been left in the dust.Long live Jeremy Clarkson!
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Why isn't the Z4 more popular?

Just got my second Z4 IS. I looked at the Caymen, Boxster, and Jaguar F type.

Even loaded the Z4 came out much cheaper for an equivalent optioned Jag or Porsche. I did not think the > $200 price difference per month was worth it. If the price was closer would have the Caymen or Jag in the garage.


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What are the chances you can join the vert meet on Sunday, Sept 22? You can sign up and check out more specifics at:

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I looked seriously at the Boxster but for the cost and driving around here it was approx. +20% what I paid for my Z4. I also didn't appreciate the Porsche arrogance of wanting to charge me for for picking up the car and driving it in Germany; which I did do with the Z4.
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