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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 07-05-2013, 04:29 PM
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X3 delivery

Just ordered a new 2014 X3 28i, MSRP is 52850 and got a 7% discount.
It has the following options:
Alpine White on Black leather with Fineline wave wood.
Driver Assistance Package
Lighting Package
M Sport Package
Premium Package
Technology Package
Automatic high beams
Premium hi-fi system
Roof rails and exterior trim in Satin Aluminum.

Is this a good deal?

I will be picking up the vehicle at the BMW plant in SC. I was told today that the lead time is over 2 months due to the new X5 production. I am not sure if this is true or not. Please advice.

What brand of tires would I expect on this vehicle?


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Old 07-05-2013, 06:47 PM
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Yes on the 7%. Congrats on your new X.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:29 PM
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I have 28i myself. But if I were you, I would spend less money the packages and take the bigger engine.

7% off MSRP discount is better than average, but I bet the dealer would be willing to give more if you buy off the lot.

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Old 07-05-2013, 08:51 PM
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I am under the impression that the 2L is more reliable than the 3L. I was told by a service tech that more turbo power ==> more problems. It may have something to do with carbon buildup in the turbo. The 2L has adequate power, better than many SUV's in its class and has better gas millage.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:32 PM
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I am under the impression that the 2L is more reliable than the 3L. I was told by a service tech that more turbo power ==> more problems. It may have something to do with carbon buildup in the turbo. The 2L has adequate power, better than many SUV's in its class and has better gas millage.
I actually heard that too! If that's the case, good choice!!
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:37 PM
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this thread is regarding tires of X3 http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=653858
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:06 PM
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I read the entire thread. There is no explicit specification for the 2014 28i 19" wheels.
Do you think an x3 with 19" wheels is higher than an x3 with 18" wheels?
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:01 PM
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I entered the above options in Edmunds True Market value pricing for a 2014 X3 and I was surprised to receive a true market price above the MSRP.

Inovice: 48570
MSRP: 52850
TMV: 53472

Who would pay above the MSRP?

I configured the vehicle in Zip 77077 and there was a regional adjustment of +$1530. This is not Hollywood.

I have always suspected that Edmund numbers are fishy..
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:58 PM
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I have a 28i and If I was given a choice to order the car again, I would definitely go with the 35i. There is decent power with the 28i, but it starts gasping after a while.

Mine came with Pirelli tires and I know some people who even had goodyears.


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Old 07-06-2013, 04:03 PM
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I received goodyears on my MY14 35i. (Didn't specify.)

I'm really happy I chose the 35i over the 28i. I was all set to order the 28 but, at the urging of a friend who's got a couple M3s, I tried the 35i and was immediately sold.

FWIW, I negotiated a couple hundred bucks over invoice + MACO + training, before the incentives. Paying anywhere close to MSRP is crazy, IMO.

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Old 07-06-2013, 06:45 PM
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I currently drive a new 528I. My prior vehicle was a rotten apple, 2008 535I and prior to that was another rotten apple 1995 540I (the engine died at 33K miles followed by transmission at 70K miles), I finally sold the car for scrap. All of my vehicles were purchased new and dealer maintained. The 540I literally fell apart, its maintenance records were in a 3-inch thick binder.

The 528 is nice and smooth and I have never experienced any gasps. Today, I shopped around and found an X3 deal below invoice. BMWs are highly marked up and are not worth their price. They are fun to drive but are loaded with serious problems. BMWs of the 70's and 80's were more reliable than later generations but those days are gone forever.
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loaded with serious problems.
No complaints with my 06 X3 3.0. Was so good I came back for more.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:57 PM
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7% sounds good.

Mine came with GoodYear tires.

Mine took less than a month to arrive. Picked it up last weekend. Maybe it depends on allocations your dealer has available? Or demand has increased?
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:14 PM
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They are fun to drive but are loaded with serious problems.
I know some have problems, and it sounds like you've been through way more than your fair share, but FWIW, I've had an E46 328i and an E90 335i and both were flawless. in 11 years of combined ownership, I never went to a dealer outside of routine maintenance and to take care of two or three recalls. I hope my new X3 is close to as reliable as those two cars were.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:16 PM
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I currently drive a new 528I....


BMWs are highly marked up and are not worth their price. They are fun to drive but are loaded with serious problems.

Gotta ask: with two lemons in your history, and with your opinion as stated above, why would you buy another BMW?
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:01 PM
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It was not only my car that was lemon but the whole stock of 540's driven in the southern states were lemons. 540's driven in other parts of the country were Ok. I remember waiting in line in the service dept for 2 weeks to get my engine replaced. BMW took care of us with extended warranty. This problem is documented here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M60#M60B40

After the engine replacement, I had a plethora of strange problems. All fluids leaked including gasoline. It was scary but the car drove and handled like a dream. It was the best car I have ever driven.

The 2008 535 was 1st production year with the twin-turbo which was another disaster for all owners. BMW finally recalled all twin turbo's 135000 vehicles.

After my 535 lease was over, I said I am done with BMW and so I leased an M37 infiniti. I hated that car with passion and so I traded it for the 528I. So far so good.

With all that being said and done, I still enjoy the ultimate driving machine. I won't buy them ...just lease them and move on ...
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:10 PM
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Does anyone know the type of transmission installed on the X3? Is it ZF 8HP30, which has a maximum torque of 300? The ZF 8HP45 has a maximum torque of 450 and is currently installed on the 5 series according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:59 PM
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The last time that I checked the F25 transmission was a ZF GA8HP45Z manufactured in Germany.
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:43 PM
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Buy an m5

m5 is better than the x3
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:51 PM
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m5 is better than the x3[/QUOTE]

Is it better than two x3's?
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:46 PM
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m5 is better than the x3
Is it better than two x3's?[/QUOTE]

yes
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:45 PM
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Is it better than two x3's?
yes[/QUOTE]

All depend on how much money you are comfortable spending.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:38 PM
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The "M5" subject is irrelevant to this thread and I think that it was started by a kid, not telling where he/she is..

I hope the X3 will be worry free for at least the 1st 4 years. Consumer reports prediction is "much worse than average". On the other hand the 528I is much better than average.

Time will tell.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:39 AM
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The "M5" subject is irrelevant to this thread and I think that it was started by a kid, not telling where he/she is..

I hope the X3 will be worry free for at least the 1st 4 years. Consumer reports prediction is "much worse than average". On the other hand the 528I is much better than average.

Time will tell.
you do not need to know where i am therefore i do not state where i am from. consumer reports did not rate the car you are buying which is the i4 turbo, they rated the i6 non turbo along with the turbo, both of the i6 engines are not reliable.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:19 AM
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Consumer reports gave the new X3 a full score with respect to other SUV's in its class but did not recommend it due to prior models(2011,2012) reliability issues.

Both the 2011,2012 of the X3 have minor transmission, electrical, body hardware, Power equipment and Audio system. The 2011 have major engine problems.

Is the transmission of the 2012 the same as the 2013 and 14?

Has anyone experienced any problem in any of the above categories?

What changes have been made (beside the 4-cyl engine) on the 2013/2014.

Should we start a thread titled "20YY X3 Problems" where YY is the model year
and ask each owner to report all problems encountered for that model year?
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