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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 07-08-2013, 03:26 PM
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You are going to LOVE it.

Where does the MAF go then? On the S/C intake side?

Consider changing the S/C pulley size. A new tune, intercooling, and that are on my list of upgrades for the M3.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:06 PM
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:29 PM
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You are going to LOVE it.

Where does the MAF go then? On the S/C intake side?

Consider changing the S/C pulley size. A new tune, intercooling, and that are on my list of upgrades for the M3.
Yeah, it's gonna be a draw through setup. MAF before the S/C. Therefore, I can't have a blow-off valve, I need to have a bypass valve that recirculates to the intake pre-S/C.

Why do you say change the pulley size? This combination puts the supercharger at 50,000 rpm at redline, which is pretty much the sweet spot. Max speed is around 53,000. Hopefully that'll put me at about 14psi at redline. I'm going to buy a backup larger pulley for the S/C in case it produces too much boost when I get it tuned.

I actually forgot you had a supercharger. Didn't it dyno pretty poorly or something?


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Old 07-08-2013, 06:29 PM
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all this talk about meth and lsd....man what did i get into buying a bmw lol.
Meet me behind the Home Depot at 11 PM tonight. I might have those "car parts" you are looking for.

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Old 07-08-2013, 07:11 PM
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Meet me be hind the Home Depot at 11 PM tonight. I might have those "car parts" you are looking for.

Behind the Tractor Supply store is where the action is at.........

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Old 07-08-2013, 09:46 PM
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Yea, I've been thinking about it, and it might be the headers causing problems.

Mine caps out around 8psi currently, according to the gauge.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:24 AM
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I also finished stripping the ol' coupe today. Kinda sucks to tear apart a car I spent the last 2 years building, but it's for the best.

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Well that escalated quickly

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Old 07-15-2013, 01:04 PM
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And question: how do your parents let you do this? Mine would have killed me. Bad enough I rebuilt my ATV in the garage, which I still haven't heard the end off.
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My parents didn't use the garage a whole lot anyway. They prefer to park their cars in the front of the house. So it became my domain. I fix their cars, so they tolerate it.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:36 PM
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Oddly I have a garage and work on the car in the gravel driveway because I'm afraid of getting crap on the garage floor.

And also subscribed to any CJ Surr build.


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And also subscribed to any CJ Surr build.


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Man, here I was thinking about going with a supercharged turbo setup. Great bottom end, awesome mid-range, and bad ass top end. I am still planning out the system, including an A/O separator, which is badly needed on these cars. I'm hoping to get an el cheapo M52B28 engine to do this on. The turbo I am planning to use will be a Garret. The supercharger... no clue yet. Maybe Dinan, maybe Drake, maybe something else. Still planning this out along with the piping.

Where are you at in the installation, CJ?
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I don't think anybody does a supercharged and turbo setup on an E36. It's just not very efficient. You can make more power with just a turbo.

Engine is still out of the car right now. I'm working on the rear end as we speak.
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Re: S52, now with more snail

The old e36 completely stripped, gonna put it up for free on craigslist shortly.


Can't be wasting that v-power... had a whole tank.



Aaaand the subframe has been dropped and reinforcements welded on the new car.


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I don't think anybody does a supercharged and turbo setup on an E36. It's just not very efficient. You can make more power with just a turbo.

Engine is still out of the car right now. I'm working on the rear end as we speak.
There's a tuner shop here that did an E36 with an S52 swap with a turbo/SC setup. The dyno chart they had showed 600 RWP but the torque curve was pretty peaky. They had them in series with the TC first and they were looking at building a Y pipe of some type so they could run them in parallel and get more low end torque and more peak RWP.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:32 PM
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CJ is the new car black too? And congrats you made autocorrect just now.


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And yeah, the new car is pretty much identical to the old one except cleaner and way less rust.
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There's a tuner shop here that did an E36 with an S52 swap with a turbo/SC setup. The dyno chart they had showed 600 RWP but the torque curve was pretty peaky. They had them in series with the TC first and they were looking at building a Y pipe of some type so they could run them in parallel and get more low end torque and more peak RWP.
Huh, interesting.



Retry on that last post:

The old e36 completely stripped, gonna put it up for free on craigslist shortly.



Can't be wasting that V-Power... had a whole tank.



Aaaand the subframe has been dropped and reinforcements welded on the new car. I underestimated the difficulty and uncomfortableness of welding these reinforcements in with the car 2ft off the ground. The welds didn't come out great, but it shouldn't matter because they'll be sandwiched anyway.











Das me



Subframe from the old car ready to go in (Powerflex Subframe and RTA bushings, swaybar reinforcements, M3 sway)



Some struggling with wood blocks and a jack... And she's bolted up



One of these things is not like the others...



Damn fleabay lower control arms. I can't find the ebay transaction in order to bitch and moan, so I'm gonna see if I can reseat the bushing tomorrow. No surprise there...

Other than that, the build is going well. Got the S52 on a stand, and my ARP head studs came in. Gonna install them without removing the head/cams. Hopefully I'll have better luck than Chip
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You missed the most important welds with the RTA plates...around the bolt holes (which is where most tears occur).
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This guy is a monster!


(A damn talented one)

Cj do werk!!

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Old 07-19-2013, 07:15 AM
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You missed the most important welds with the RTA plates...around the bolt holes (which is where most tears occur).
Dammit... I watched this video beforehand and apparently they made the same mistake



Now it's gonna be a pain with the trailing arm there...
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Nice work CJ. Did not know you were doing all this when we spoke at BFE. Very cool. Look forward to seeing it here in Roc.
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