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Old 07-08-2013, 01:57 PM
Dale Conrad Dale Conrad is offline
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2007 X3 (E83) Trans fluid Change

Hi all you intelligent People, BMW owners. I just traded our 1997 740I which we had owner for 14 years for a 2007 X3, neat little SUV. Wife is the driver and I am in charge of maintenance, the same as on our 740I. So, went to two parts stores requesting filter change
kit, but said NOT AVAILABLE, this transmission has no filter, just like a 2009 Honda CR-V.
Bought this X3 at Hendrick BMW in Hickory N.C. who also has Honda dealership in Hickory,
my source for no filter in a Honda CR-V. Honda recommended flush every 10,000 Miles.
I believe BMW says 100,000 for Trans flush. So, what I am trying to confirm, is there no
Trans filter in a 2007 and beyond. How often are you other owners changing fluid?
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:30 PM
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NEVER FLUSH any transmission. you can drain it and refill, BMW states that this fluid is "lifetime"
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:46 PM
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There is indeed a filter. You don't have to change it though as there is both a drain and refill plug. Part diagram and numbers below:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...03&hg=24&fg=15

This is a good ole fashion GM transmission that shares a lot in common with ones you might have wrenched on in the past....including how the filter and neck look. I am going to assume by flush you mean drain and refill...in that case fluid is Dexron VI and it takes about 9 qts.

BMW recommends 100k miles. I change mine every 25k at the same time I do both differentials and transfer case.

Both differentials takes 3 qts of 75w90 (I like redline but castrol xo was factory fill)

Transfer case uses BMW fluid that is only available at parts counter (or online). That takes 1 bottle that is a liter in size.


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Old 07-08-2013, 02:48 PM
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NEVER FLUSH any transmission. you can drain it and refill, BMW states that this fluid is "lifetime"
Not in 07 and up. They transitioned away from lifetime fill and to gm recommendations with the LCI refresh and change to Dex VI. See attachment here:


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Old 07-08-2013, 03:11 PM
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Definitely do the gearbox fluid at 100k miles. BMW no longer uses the term 'lifetime fill' and has revised all their documentation to 100k miles.

OP: You should also do the transfer box [BMW's version of a center diff plus front diff in one box] fluid at 80-100k miles. You should use only BMW fluid for this, as it is a secret mix of friction modifiers. Unfortunately it costs as much as unicorn tears at about $96 for 1L, however a transfer box rebuild is $3k, saving $30 on aftermarket fluid is not the right way to go here as the early cars blew their transfer boxes up necessitating the secret formula. 0.7L comes out, 0.9L goes in. You can find the fluid part number on realoem on the transfer box page.

If you have a panoramic roof, you would be wise to avoid using it in icy weather and to regrease it, as they can break and the full cassette must be replaced at $2k. 83192157321 is the lube should you want the recommended stuff. Still looking for a good DIY of the grease points myself.

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Old 07-08-2013, 06:11 PM
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I would be interested in the grease points as depicted above...back on subject...I just replaced my 2005 X3 transmission oil and filter. I am the second owner, but I could tell the transmission was never touched. Bottomline: Fluid was full of gunk. Wish I had a camera to snap a pic.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:34 AM
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There is indeed a filter. You don't have to change it though as there is both a drain and refill plug. Part diagram and numbers below:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...03&hg=24&fg=15

This is a good ole fashion GM transmission that shares a lot in common with ones you might have wrenched on in the past....including how the filter and neck look. I am going to assume by flush you mean drain and refill...in that case fluid is Dexron VI and it takes about 9 qts.

BMW recommends 100k miles. I change mine every 25k at the same time I do both differentials and transfer case.

Both differentials takes 3 qts of 75w90 (I like redline but castrol xo was factory fill)

Transfer case uses BMW fluid that is only available at parts counter (or online). That takes 1 bottle that is a liter in size.


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Thanks for the valuable information X3Brian. You even say what type and how much
fluid to use. Also, I had not thought about changing the differential and transfer case,
but will now. I am thinking you must be a BMW service advisor!
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:28 AM
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I am thinking you must be a BMW service advisor!
Nope just a lowly engineer that has 117k trouble free miles on my 09...


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Old 07-09-2013, 09:57 AM
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Fyi;

In order to get a relief, i had changed ATF as well, by drain & refill, i could refill 4 qts with Dexron VI .
actually, 3 weeks ago, i had drained and refilled ATF, and did it again in this week.

i am not sure how x3brian could fill it 9qt. it must take two spin of ATF change ?

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Old 07-09-2013, 10:33 AM
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Torque converter holds a ton of fluid. A typical drain and fill only is about 4 qts in the pan and another 1/2 qt or so at fill plug after checking temperature.

I usually do a second pan drain and fill to try to get a portion of torque converter fluid out.


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Old 07-09-2013, 10:33 AM
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Brian, Thanks a lot for all the good information. You also specified types of lubricant, amount required, and diagram of transmission. You must be a BMW mechanic or BMW service person.
Again, many thanks. There is also good advice in your other posts.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:38 AM
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Hey joylove, thanks for the info on the transfer case fluid. You are correct relative to the 96.00 price, ouch!
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:07 PM
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Hey joylove, thanks for the info on the transfer case fluid. You are correct relative to the 96.00 price, ouch!
Maybe the price has gone up, but I've never paid more than $48 at my local BMW dealer for it.


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Old 07-09-2013, 05:10 PM
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.... You are correct relative to the 96.00 price, ouch!
Not that I know of: http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/83220397244/ES197388/

The container may have changed, along with whatever BMW chooses to call the stuff, but surely there's a reasonable upper limit on what can be charged for a litre of oil.
And that's not much over $50 in my book.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:41 PM
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Agree. I paid it just $50 around from online, not dealership.
Dealership they have really different price policy i guess.


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Old 07-09-2013, 07:43 PM
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Make sure it's the correct part number for your year! $48 is a much better price.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:53 AM
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MY BMW dealer Hendrick Motors says, for 2007 X3, the correct part number 83220397244 I mentioned the price
of 96.00 as very high, they said yes it is, but did not refute my quoted price. I will try online source.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:03 PM
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MY BMW dealer Hendrick Motors says, for 2007 X3, the correct part number 83220397244 I mentioned the price
of 96.00 as very high, they said yes it is, but did not refute my quoted price. I will try online source.
I would find another BMW dealer. My dealer only charges $48 before my discount for being in their 100k mile club.


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