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Old 07-10-2013, 07:53 PM
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BMW gremlins

Well it happened.
Started up the car passenger airbag off warning stayed on and the seatbelt warning lit up and won't go away. I restarted the car but the same warnings remained. Strangely, there was no annoying dong for the seatbelt.
However, both disappeared after I left the car shut off for 5 minutes while getting coffee
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:43 AM
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Passenger seat mat sensor is a common failure on early build E90s. There was a service bulletin released and I believe a recall as well because in the event of an accident, if the seat mat sensor is faulty, the passenger air bag will deploy regardless if there is a passenger there or not. This is a safety hazard for a child that doesn't meet the 70 or 90lb weight requirement. (or whatever the requirement is).

Have the shadow fault codes pulled from the ABG module. See if there is a fault relating to OC3. If there is, you can ask your dealer if your VIN falls under the recall.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:29 AM
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Passenger seat mat sensor is a common failure on early build E90s. There was a service bulletin released and I believe a recall as well because in the event of an accident, if the seat mat sensor is faulty, the passenger air bag will deploy regardless if there is a passenger there or not. This is a safety hazard for a child that doesn't meet the 70 or 90lb weight requirement. (or whatever the requirement is).

Have the shadow fault codes pulled from the ABG module. See if there is a fault relating to OC3. If there is, you can ask your dealer if your VIN falls under the recall.

Another good reason to wait for the 3rd, preferably 4th year of production!
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:42 AM
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It ain't a gremlin unless it comes back!

(Hope it doesn't though!) At least it seems to be a known issue, which is great for electrical gremlins, as often it is hard to figure where to even start troubleshooting! Wonder if this would store codes the mechanics could use to isolate the issue.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:59 AM
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Another good reason to wait for the 3rd, preferably 4th year of production!
Yea but I love my 330! lol They only made them in late 05 and 06 for E90s in the US.

In Europe they still produce them, well not now since the F30 was released. But the euro version is direct injected and make a bit more power :/ Europe always gets the better version...
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Passenger seat mat sensor is a common failure on early build E90s. There was a service bulletin released and I believe a recall as well because in the event of an accident, if the seat mat sensor is faulty, the passenger air bag will deploy regardless if there is a passenger there or not. This is a safety hazard for a child that doesn't meet the 70 or 90lb weight requirement. (or whatever the requirement is).

Have the shadow fault codes pulled from the ABG module. See if there is a fault relating to OC3. If there is, you can ask your dealer if your VIN falls under the recall.
Hmm, mine is actually the last year production for the E90 chassis.
No open recalls or TSB's found.
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Hmm, mine is actually the last year production for the E90 chassis.
No open recalls or TSB's found.
Well if the error doesn't pop up again, I wouldn't worry about it.

There is most likely a shadow fault in your ABG module though. So if you want to look further into the situation, have the module scanned and pull the shadow fault if there is one.
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Well if the error doesn't pop up again, I wouldn't worry about it.

There is most likely a shadow fault in your ABG module though. So if you want to look further into the situation, have the module scanned and pull the shadow fault if there is one.
I will stop by my friends mechanics and see if they still have Bavarian Technic diagnostic tool.
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Passenger seat mat sensor is a common failure on early build E90s. There was a service bulletin released and I believe a recall as well because in the event of an accident, if the seat mat sensor is faulty, the passenger air bag will deploy regardless if there is a passenger there or not. This is a safety hazard for a child that doesn't meet the 70 or 90lb weight requirement. (or whatever the requirement is).

Have the shadow fault codes pulled from the ABG module. See if there is a fault relating to OC3. If there is, you can ask your dealer if your VIN falls under the recall.
That was quite a while ago and covers:

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...aryRecall.aspx
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Did you throw something on the passenger seat while starting the car? I was able to trip the warning on mine when I dropped my phone on the passenger seat while starting the car.
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