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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 07-18-2013, 09:56 AM
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Exsessive Brake dust

After Driving my 2006 530xi for a few days, the Rims are covered in black brake dust. I have to clean them every two or three days. may go with Ceramic pads. Issues with that?
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:18 AM
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You could wash the car and then pull out the driveway, the front wheels would be black.
Ceramics are good.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:21 AM
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Thanks! I have ceramic on my Silverado and had them on the Envoy before. Just wanted to make sure the E60 didn't have issues with going from semi metalic to ceramic. The dust is over the top.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:45 AM
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You may get some noise with ceramic pads.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:04 PM
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:09 PM
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Shouldn't be surprised...the brakes are boss, don't be ashamed of a little bit of brake dust.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:42 PM
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shouldn't be surprised...the brakes are boss, don't be ashamed of a little bit of brake dust.
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Im glad I waited to look into this too. I noticed a ton of brake dust on my wheels a few days after it was washed and was wondering if there was in issue or if the PO had upgraded to a performance system that somehow the dealer was unaware of. But honestly I love how braking on this car feels and I will gladly put up with extra brake dust because of it. Wonder if the extra brake dust is indicative of a shorter pad life though?
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:06 PM
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Im glad I waited to look into this too. I noticed a ton of brake dust on my wheels a few days after it was washed and was wondering if there was in issue or if the PO had upgraded to a performance system that somehow the dealer was unaware of. But honestly I love how braking on this car feels and I will gladly put up with extra brake dust because of it. Wonder if the extra brake dust is indicative of a shorter pad life though?
Yes, the pads do wear out quicker, as do the rotors. There are brake pads out there that give less dust, and that people swear have similar performance. But, since my car is still under factory maintenance, I put up with the brake dust.

Try the Armor-All wheel protectant spray. It does a great job of suppressing the dust, plus most of the dust that does collect hoses right off, with no scrubbing or other work needed. I apply about every 3rd car wash, and have been very happy with it so far.

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Old 07-19-2013, 05:56 PM
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change the pads for something better... its called modding your car to your liking..
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Im glad I waited to look into this too. I noticed a ton of brake dust on my wheels a few days after it was washed and was wondering if there was in issue or if the PO had upgraded to a performance system that somehow the dealer was unaware of. But honestly I love how braking on this car feels and I will gladly put up with extra brake dust because of it. Wonder if the extra brake dust is indicative of a shorter pad life though?
Agreed. Confidence in your brakes, IMHO, offsets having to clean wheels more often. I, too, use the Armorall product and have been satisfied with what it does to keep wheels clean.


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Old 07-20-2013, 08:44 AM
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Wonder if the extra brake dust is indicative of a shorter pad life though?
Well, I have over 64k miles on mine (I'm the original owner) and the brakes are still working great ... along with all the dust.

However, iDrive info says that I have 21,000 miles left on the front and 32,000 miles on the rear ... and that seems impossible! I have a service appointment next week and want them to physically inspect the brakes. (Last time I mentioned the long service remaining to my SA, he said I must just be good on brakes.) That sounded somewhat plausible, but that was 2 or 3 months ago and about 6,000 miles ago ... and at that time, iDrive info reported 20k miles front and 30k miles rear ... maybe I have a new type of brake pad that grows with use instead of wearing out.
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Old 07-20-2013, 03:54 PM
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Well, I have over 64k miles on mine (I'm the original owner) and the brakes are still working great ... along with all the dust.

However, iDrive info says that I have 21,000 miles left on the front and 32,000 miles on the rear ... and that seems impossible! I have a service appointment next week and want them to physically inspect the brakes. (Last time I mentioned the long service remaining to my SA, he said I must just be good on brakes.) That sounded somewhat plausible, but that was 2 or 3 months ago and about 6,000 miles ago ... and at that time, iDrive info reported 20k miles front and 30k miles rear ... maybe I have a new type of brake pad that grows with use instead of wearing out.
Damn Burnie I didn't know that the brakes would last that long since I only average 25k miles per set. I'm even going into the dealer to get my 3rd set of brakes. Luckily I still have the maintainence plan on mine so it's free.
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:24 PM
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Yes, the pads do wear out quicker, as do the rotors. There are brake pads out there that give less dust, and that people swear have similar performance. But, since my car is still under factory maintenance, I put up with the brake dust.

Try the Armor-All wheel protectant spray. It does a great job of suppressing the dust, plus most of the dust that does collect hoses right off, with no scrubbing or other work needed. I apply about every 3rd car wash, and have been very happy with it so far.

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For the sake of comparison, my 08 550 has 57k miles and (I'm 2nd owner) and my battery plus pads/rotors have been changed twice each.


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Old 07-21-2013, 05:32 PM
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Damn Burnie I didn't know that the brakes would last that long since I only average 25k miles per set. I'm even going into the dealer to get my 3rd set of brakes. Luckily I still have the maintainence plan on mine so it's free.
Now this is how to use the extended maintenance plan... well worth the cost

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Damn Burnie I didn't know that the brakes would last that long since I only average 25k miles per set. I'm even going into the dealer to get my 3rd set of brakes. Luckily I still have the maintainence plan on mine so it's free.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:59 AM
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Thanks for all the replies! I'm not real worried about a little bit of dust, but this gets out of control! Ceramic may give me a little bit of a squeal at low speeds but I can't stand the dust. Idrive just told me the brakes are close to needing changed so I will order new Ceramic pads for the front. I have also looked into the sensor that is on the pads. Do you have to rplace them every time, or only if you brake them? I have been working on cars for over 20 years and have the Bently Publishers book on this car. just haven't read about the brakes yet.
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:51 AM
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Well, I have over 64k miles on mine (I'm the original owner) and the brakes are still working great ... along with all the dust.

However, iDrive info says that I have 21,000 miles left on the front and 32,000 miles on the rear ... and that seems impossible! I have a service appointment next week and want them to physically inspect the brakes. (Last time I mentioned the long service remaining to my SA, he said I must just be good on brakes.) That sounded somewhat plausible, but that was 2 or 3 months ago and about 6,000 miles ago ... and at that time, iDrive info reported 20k miles front and 30k miles rear ... maybe I have a new type of brake pad that grows with use instead of wearing out.
I'm pretty sure E60s have the Conditional Based Service system. This calculates service intervals based on driver habits.

When the pads are truly low and need to be replaced, a wear sensor will "break" and the CBS system will adjust accordingly.

Seems like you baby your car!
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Akebono brake pads are amazing in regards to low brake dust.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:12 AM
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Akebono brake pads are amazing in regards to low brake dust.
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure E60s have the Conditional Based Service system. This calculates service intervals based on driver habits.

When the pads are truly low and need to be replaced, a wear sensor will "break" and the CBS system will adjust accordingly.

Seems like you baby your car!
Actually, I drive fairly aggressively ... no actual racing or whatever ... but don't slam the brakes very much. (Maybe that's why my shoes wear out so fast ... by dragging my feet! )

I sure go through the rear tires though!
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Akebono brake pads are amazing in regards to low brake dust.
Switched from OEM to Akebono a few weeks ago. Love them. Wheels stay clean and stopping power is very adequate.


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I tried using the Armor All wheel protectant last week for the first time. I have to say that I am impressed. There is no trace of brake dust on my wheels.
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I tried using the Armor All wheel protectant last week for the first time. I have to say that I am impressed. There is no trace of brake dust on my wheels.
Yes, yes. The Armorall + Akebonos = Very Clean Wheels


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