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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 07-19-2013, 02:14 PM
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I would consider your car pretty much a "base" model. Nothing wrong with that, its just not something "I" would want.

I just expect more features in what I consider to be an "entry level" luxury car. Others consider it to be a "drivers / track " car, and thats fine too. For example, for ME, there is absolutely ZERO point of a car like the M3 CSL (ultra lightweight M3 with pretty much everything removed to save weight).

I GET it... but it would never be something I would own, unless I was extremely filthy rich, and could buy a car simply to race around a track.

Everyone has different requirements out of their cars, however, so these are pretty personal decisions.

this thread is pretty interesting for a somewhat unintended purpose though.... what people consider "base" varies pretty wildly.
This was my first BMW having Toyotas and Nissans in the past. I am not too picky and don't like a lot of extras and didn't want to overpay for extra features. Sport would probably be cool, there's always the next one though.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:23 PM
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That's a great payment. Did you put money down or put down multiple security deposits?

To answer your original question, I don't think too many people interested in a 3 series are like you, interested in the lowest possible payment and not needing many options. Look at local dealer inventory. My dealer has a lot of cars and in Michigan they all have xDrive. Most have the Premium Package and most are no line models. I'd have to guess that the average 328 price on this inventory is $41K so not loaded but not stripped.

Personally I want the sportiest configuration which means RWD and Sportline. I'll add leather, heated seats, metallic paint and hopefully the HK radio. This is close to $44K but with incentives and a good residual the payment is reasonable.
Cap reduction of $2k plus fees, registration, 1st payment, etc. No MSDs as I actually didn't know about this option, but I don't think the dealers in AZ would do it anyway. This was my first BMW and I am still young and didn't want to go overboard or spoil myself at this point. Not mention, an extra 30-40% in payment is not worth it to me.
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When I was looking at replacing my 2003 E46, I configured a no-line 328i with the six-speed and sport package. Still pretty pricey (for someone paying cash, like me). I kept mulling over what to do when all of a sudden the 320i came along The 320i with sport package turned out to be just what I wanted, and only $6000 more than the E46 I bought a decade earlier--and many thousands less than the no-line, with sport.
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:41 PM
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When I was looking at replacing my 2003 E46, I configured a no-line 328i with the six-speed and sport package. Still pretty pricey (for someone paying cash, like me). I kept mulling over what to do when all of a sudden the 320i came along The 320i with sport package turned out to be just what I wanted, and only $6000 more than the E46 I bought a decade earlier--and many thousands less than the no-line, with sport.
Just me, but I would feel that the 320 is not "enough" BMW..

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Old 07-19-2013, 04:06 PM
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For some folks, only an M--an M3 or whatever--is enough BMW. For me, that's too much, and probably unsafe for me, on the road and on the track, and not really practical for my needs for a great driving experience and also four doors, and within my budget. The important thing to me is that my three BMWs have all been my ultimate driving machines.
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:29 PM
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Just me, but I would feel that the 320 is not "enough" BMW..
Well it's faster than the E46 325i ... so was that car not BMW enough either?
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:31 PM
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Re: Who went with the base model 328i and why?

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Of course Bimmerfest isn't representative of the average, but quite a few Bimmerfesters go for the typical 3er, which is a no-line 328 with the premium package, possibly nav or tech. There is a wider selection of those on dealers' lots than anything else.
When I was looking that was a ton of the cars on the lots. Mostly white silver or black too.. no line premium + nav

My car I wouldn't call truly base but its pretty stripped. All I have is an m sport with lighting and pdc. It was on a dealer lot and I actually got an extra $1000 off because they couldn't move a crazy color like eb2 without premium and nav. Worked out well for me.
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:42 PM
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Well it's faster than the E46 325i ... so was that car not BMW enough either?
F30 320i has about the same hp and 0-60 time as the E46 325i but my 320i has a higher top, at 146 mph, due to higher rated summer performance tires. I probably can't hit that top speed on the track with my hp however due to the straight being a tad short.
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Well it's faster than the E46 325i ... so was that car not BMW enough either?
It was enough 10 years ago..
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F30 320i has about the same hp and 0-60 time as the E46 325i but my 320i has a higher top, at 146 mph, due to higher rated summer performance tires. I probably can't hit that top speed on the track with my hp however due to the straight being a tad short.
its probably grossly underrated , plus given its a turbo it probably "feels" faster given the torque is available down low and theres more of it (i think the e46 had what 184 hp and 170 torque if i recall).

i havent driven the 320i yet, but i did drive a 2001 e46 325i with sport pack way back when (i was 19 , it was the first bmw i'd ever driven, and i knew then that it was awesome and my nissan altima at the time was crap!) and it was plenty fast enough .
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Who went with the base model 328i and why?

That's like saying my car is 2 seconds faster than a Lamborghini Jalpa or Miura. Those cars were FAST for when they were built. A "sports sedan" shouldn't be fast for the 80s-90s, but fast for the era it was built in. The definition of fast gets faster every year.


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Old 07-19-2013, 07:38 PM
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It was enough 10 years ago..
My point is, why does horsepower define a BMW? If that's the case, 6 series owners must laugh at 3 series owners...

In foreign markets, there are far smaller engines rocking in F30's ... still great vehicles.

No need to be a snob.
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My point is, why does horsepower define a BMW? If that's the case, 6 series owners must laugh at 3 series owners...

In foreign markets, there are far smaller engines rocking in F30's ... still great vehicles.

No need to be a snob.
It's not horsepower, but it's more of the philosophy. For example, do you buy the cheapest Nikes or Rolex just to say you have one?
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It's not horsepower, but it's more of the philosophy. For example, do you buy the cheapest Nikes or Rolex just to say you have one?
Only in North America does BMW market itself as the Ultimate Driving Machine, for egotistical Americans. In the rest of the world their tagline is Sheer Driving Pleasure. Apparently a 316d is sufficient to accomplish that for most Europeans.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:21 AM
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It's not horsepower, but it's more of the philosophy. For example, do you buy the cheapest Nikes or Rolex just to say you have one?
Id never buy a rolex but I'm pretty sure the cheapest nikes still do the shoe function well.


If a 320i does it for me why would I care if it was the cheapest one. You sir care way too much what people think.
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Actually, Nikes are for driving Hummers. For Bimmers, I'm told, it's the Gucci loafer. And with the money I saved by buying a 320i, I have a Rolex on each wrist, one set to the time out here on the coast and the other for where I keep my money, in the Cayman Islands.
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Actually, Nikes are for driving Hummers. For Bimmers, I'm told, it's the Gucci loafer. And with the money I saved by buying a 320i, I have a Rolex on each wrist, one set to the time out here on the coast and the other for where I keep my money, in the Cayman Islands.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:59 AM
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Actually, Nikes are for driving Hummers. For Bimmers, I'm told, it's the Gucci loafer. And with the money I saved by buying a 320i, I have a Rolex on each wrist, one set to the time out here on the coast and the other for where I keep my money, in the Cayman Islands.
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Id never buy a rolex but I'm pretty sure the cheapest nikes still do the shoe function well.


If a 320i does it for me why would I care if it was the cheapest one. You sir care way too much what people think.
So at what point are you just paying for the sticker?
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So at what point are you just paying for the sticker?
If the 320i wasn't actually a good car. I'd have no problem driving a 320i . Its a car that would do it for me.


I don't know my parents can buy any car BMw makes. And they have a base x3 with 0 options as one of their cars. They actually special ordered it like that. It was exactly what fit their needs . No need to buy something more just to say you did. I'm fairly certain my mom doesn't sit there feeling shamed every time an x5 with a Nav system drives by
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If the 320i wasn't actually a good car. I'd have no problem driving a 320i . Its a car that would do it for me.


I don't know my parents can buy any car BMw makes. And they have a base x3 with 0 options as one of their cars. They actually special ordered it like that. It was exactly what fit their needs . No need to buy something more just to say you did. I'm fairly certain my mom doesn't sit there feeling shamed every time an x5 with a Nav system drives by
As several posts say, a base 328 was enough BMW for me. Point of the thread was to see if its enough for others and any explanations they could offer to go along.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:18 AM
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I bought a no line 328 because it is what I wanted. I was only looking for a commuter car, something that got good MPG, somethinng that had enough power not to make myself look like an ass getting onto the expressway, and something with a little bit of luxury. That combo is hard to come by, it seems as though you have to give up one to get the other two.
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So at what point are you just paying for the sticker?
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I bought a no line 328 because it is what I wanted. I was only looking for a commuter car, something that got good MPG, somethinng that had enough power not to make myself look like an ass getting onto the expressway, and something with a little bit of luxury. That combo is hard to come by, it seems as though you have to give up one to get the other two.
That mirrors my decision and thought process exactly.
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